QuizMaster, are you considering also a quiz about the cities with the lowest quality of life?
Anybody can call some random names and say they are better than the ones on the list. I am sure you arent even familiar with 90% on the list. Your comment is such an empty shout.
I did want to make a least livable cities quiz. But I couldn't find the data. I did see that Baghdad was last
But I question some of the choices. Can't imagine Berlin to be that liveable to make it on the list. Been there once - might have some nice areas but overall? Not that great. And what kind of people took the survey? Munich is very expensive. Maybe it's liveable for people who love small flats or got the matching cash.
I believe it is sort of connected, the colder northern regions (canada, scandnavia) are usually very pretty with (more) undisturbed nature. Because a more moderate climate usually attracts more people, and those places get covered with buildings.
And if you just look at european countries like sumguy suggests it is only the ukraine that has a higher murder rate than the usa. (most others are in the rest of the americas (south and central), and africa)
look for yourself
I would definitely consider living in Amsterdam. Cool city. I would put up with the terrible climate to try living there for a while. I would definitely pass on Berlin and Toronto. Of the cities that I have not visited on the list, I think I would like to try Vienna, Zurich, Geneva, Copenhagen, Sydney and Melbourne. Stockholm maybe if I got to live somewhere else at least 8 months out of the year. The rest... no interest in at all.
And, for me personally, I can think of at least several hundred cities I would prefer to live in over any of these. Mostly in East and SE Asia, Latin America, and the United States. Europe and Canada are very overrated. I hear good things about Australia but I've never been there before so can't comment.
In general my opinion of these places, versus my expectations prior to visiting them, has been revised down.
I would like to reiterate the paramount importance of climate. So many of these German and Scandinavian cities are dark, dreary, rainy, and frigidly cold- not what I would call livable. I was in most of them in the summer and they were still unpleasant.
I'd also like to double down on the cost of living thing. It makes a huge huge difference. When it costs $95 for a bunk bed in a hostel dormitory in Zurich, and $30 for a high-rise condo on the beach in Odessa with floor-to-ceiling windows overlooking the Black Sea (I've stayed in both)... this makes a difference in your quality of life. People who can afford to live comfortably some place like Albania or the Philippines would literally be bums if they were transported to Switzerland.
I know my taste in climate isn't equal to everyone's. Just speaking to my own preferences.
I like bright skies (but can thoroughly enjoy storms) but I am not one of those that feels like the hotter the better. 17degrees is more than more enough 20 is fine too but over 25 I get seriously ill and even in the shade is unpleasant, in the sun is not even an option. (and then you see people still with long pants and sweaters, and I think what?? I am totally incapacitated)>
Atm it is about 12 degrees and very very sunny, lovely ! it is not shorts and tshirt weather anymore, but it is really nice. And the sun is still very hot your face still burns. (I hate sunless and drizzling weather though, if it is dark, let it pour and storm and thunder!)
Brief impressions of each:
1. Vienna: dreary weather. Beautiful downtown. Nice architecture. Nice open public spaces. Otherwise a bit dull. Wouldn't want to live here.
2. Munich: amazing food. Attractive women. Very expensive by German standards. Germans in general though are uptight. Might consider living here briefly.
3. Copenhagen: Scandinavia is so overrated but this place is alright-ish. Too expensive but cheaper than further north. Most absurd bridge toll I've ever seen in my life. Don't think I'd live here.
4. Amsterdam: too expensive and cold but as stated previously still one of the places I like most in Europe. Would live here for a while.
5. Berlin: reasonably cheap for Western Europe. Less boring than most of these cities. A bit dreary. Maybe
7. Hamburg: a bit sleazy, and if you're into that sort of sleaze... you won't get your money's worth here. Plenty of scams and rip-offs. But much cheaper than nearby Amsterdam and Copenhagen. Some parts of downtown are okay. Met some surprisingly friendly people, for Germans. But wouldn't want to live here.
8. Stockholm: I thought I would like it. Was disappointed. Nice, but.. Very anti-septic. Very dull. Don't really care for the culture overall- some good some bad. Hate how car-hostile downtown area is. Insanely expensive, though not as bad as Norway. People are a bit stand-offish. Good food. Well stocked groceries. Some nice museums. Wouldn't want to live here though, even in the summer. Can't imagine how awful it would be in the winter.
I've never been to Spain. Never been to Australia. Never been to Costa Rica. You can see my travel map in my profile. I have a feeling I'd like some of those places.
That said, with the exception of Barcelona and Madrid (both great to visit) Spanish cities are wonderful places if you can find a job.
dbyeti: my car is an extension of myself.
#1 someone who is retired or semi-retired and living off of savings.
#2 someone who works from their laptop making the same wages and doing the same work regardless of where they sleep at night.
#3 someone whose experience or skill set allows them to find good well-paying jobs virtually anywhere, even in "poor" countries where the locals might have depressed wages.
Then also consider the fact that in most of these "affluent" countries, getting work can be considerably more difficult. Economies of these countries tend to be more protectionist when it comes to jobs and their workforce. There is often a lot of bureaucratic red tape involved in getting a work visa. You may have to work illegally if you want to work at all, and likely accept lower wages.
Taxes in these countries are typically substantially lower, as well.
In summation, no, I'm not confused at all. I'm definitely thinking about places I would like to live, not just visit.
Personally I love the opportunities a city has, there is allways something you can do, a lot of courses you can take, and it usually matters less how you look. But to have to life there everyday is probably not for me. A car unfriendly center sounds great, tht actually sounds like a big plus. I need my nature and my quiet (though not in the best street for quiet, some very loud people unfortunately, but trafficwise it is quiet and not polluted either). Places like canada and scandinavia sound great to me (but their big cities still not too much).
Also, Scandinavia might be a bit cold and dark in the winter but we rarely have any heat waves where the temperatures climb over +30C for long periods of time (well, it didn't even reach 25C once over here last year), no earthquakes, tornadoes, extreme flooding, extreme cold/snowstorms, drought etc. Clean water and air for all and so forth.
Helen: you've proven time and again you are not worth responding to. I'm only nasty to those who go out of their way to deserve it. You've left plenty of undeserved nasty comments on my own quizzes.
Meanwhile in the real world, some of my European friends who have actually visited the United States tell me they're amazed they can go out walking in the city and get back home and the bottoms of their shoes are still clean. I lived there 30 years and never once witnessed a violent crime take place. I received so much in federal and state financial aid during college I made a profit. and public transport in many cities is perfectly fine.
I don't especially want to live in the US, but seriously, you people are hilarious.
So not getting to the top of the table doesn't imply that Mercer thinks that people getting shot daily at Fisherman Wharf. No need to get emotional here.
Most people who move to the US come from countries that are less well-off. Is the US more livable to them than the country they left behind? Yes. Is it more livable than a big number of European countries/Australia/Canada/etc.? Nope.
I've had two of my friends visit the US before (one of them was on the west coast for 2 weeks, the other on the east coast for a whole month - she stayed at a friend's place). While both liked their time in America just fine, they both said they would never want to live there, for different reasons each.
No UK cities and I'm not surprised, doesn't stop people wanting to live here! It is still a great country, survey or not.
2) What does a mental health professional have to do with me?
3) Clearly, you didn't understand what I said. Y o u a r g u e w i t h t e e n a g e r s o n a q u i z w e b s i t e
Traveling around I have met people who spend as much time traveling as I do for literally nothing. And others who started with about $1000 dollars in the bank and have been traveling for years. It's not that hard. Helps to have a good passport but I know some who have done it coming from 3rd world countries.
A mental health professional obviously has nothing to do with you. If they did you might be making more balanced comments, and perhaps be more self aware. But you're not.
"If they did you might be making more balanced comments, and perhaps be more self aware" do you really think I care about this? If I was self-aware I'd probably stop arguing with "deranged prunes" XD. But it seems I always get attracted to them which is kinda sad ;/
Also, I expected Oslo to be on this list. It is expensive, but its liveable ;)
Speaking as someone regularly travelling all over Europe and having male and female friends living in many places in Germany and elsewhere ...
I don't know what news reports you have been reading but in all my time on Jetpunk, that is the biggest load of complete and utter BS I have ever heard. Europe isn't perfect, nowhere is, but your statement is just plain wrong.
The Mercer rankings have 39 factors grouped into 10 categories. The 7th category is "Recreation" and includes "restaurants, theaters, cinemas, sports and leisure, etc." As for restaurants, Tokyo restaurants have 304 Michelin stars, blowing away the closest European city (Paris, with 134). Munich has fewer than 20. Tokyo and Seoul both have great, world class cinemas. Most European cities have nothing that compares.
And some specialists will explain us: "West Eurasia is a continent, Europe is a country. Zurich is Swiss."
Thing is the EU has been around less than 30 years. and referring to the EU as Europe creates confusion as there is a continent by the same name. The popular convention Ander refers to has been near universally understood since before any of us were born, annoying nobody until very recently. The only confusion in creates is feigned, as there is no continent called America. Calling the USA "America" should be as controversial as calling the United States of Mexico "Mexico"... but of course... it isn't. And we all know why though some of us pretend not to.
Although can Cologne be counted for Dusseldorf as they are pretty much two in one?
For instance, if amsterdam is on here, why not the rest of the major cities in the country? (and major only because there is more transportation and entertainment there. Other standards of living is are generally the same throughout the country. The flip side of big cities is housing though, one of the criteria, it is very scarce in big cities and ludicrous prices, so that would take the scores down again_