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Countries with the Most Murders

Can you name the countries with the most intentional homicides?
From various sources as compiled by Wikipedia
Murders in underdeveloped countries are very likely under counted
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Murders
Country
64,201
Nigeria
44,033
Brazil
40,651
India
36,579
Mexico
20,982
United States
19,846
South Africa
11,520
Colombia
Murders
Country
10,697
Russia
10,598
Venezuela
10,322
D. R. Congo
8,241
Pakistan
8,153
Ethiopia
7,525
China
4,764
Philippines
Murders
Country
4,460
Uganda
3,881
Guatemala
3,830
Bangladesh
3,598
Honduras
3,439
Tanzania
3,339
Iraq
Roger77024
+76
Level 57
Sep 8, 2015
Not a single European country on the list! Civilization and gun control rule!
Arp2600
+41
Level 86
Sep 29, 2015
Russia is the most populated european country and it has a slightly more troubled history than western countries. But it still has three times less murders than Brazil per capita.
tshalla
+6
Level 75
Sep 16, 2018
Can't remember - what did Gandhi say about Western civilization?
Sifhraven
+13
Level 67
Mar 4, 2020
That is because they have crazy car accidents, they dont need guns.
RJF
+4
Level 64
Nov 16, 2022
Russia may be geographically European, but culturally it is diametrically opposed to every single European value, so I think the OP had a point.
Gyrenaica
+32
Level 35
Oct 7, 2015
Gun Control can kiss the dirt
CaoMaru
+89
Level 49
May 28, 2019
Well, like it or not, it seems to have worked.
Quizmaster
+72
Level ∞
Dec 30, 2019
In the U.S., it is often the cities with the most gun control (such as DC) that have the highest murder rates. The same applies to countries as well. In Venezuela, private firearms are illegal, yet the murder rate is off the charts. So does gun control reduce crime? The answer... probably, but only a little bit. Certainly not enough to explain the vast difference in murder rates between Japan and the United States, for example.

On the other hand, there is evidence that gun control substantially lowers the suicide rate.

Tramp
+26
Level 76
Feb 27, 2020
With the US, I think gun control might not necessarily be the best solution because the country is already absolutely flooded with guns. In places like Japan/most of Europe etc, it works because even most criminals don't have guns.
TravelingMama
+6
Level 73
Feb 27, 2020
Mexico also has gun control and they are third here.
Sifhraven
+9
Level 67
Mar 4, 2020
I think there is a point in that. Taking away something generally dont have the same effect as when something wasnt allowed in the first place. (Look at kids and sweets/toys, mayhem if they are suddenly denied it, and no issue, if the supply was allready limited/clear rules (like only sweets in the weekend). The ones whose stuff get taken away will find a way to get what they want)
pitzikat
+33
Level 74
Mar 11, 2020
gun control in the US is misleading. Chicago has a very high rate and very strict laws . . . . but for some of the highest risk areas, it's quicker to drive to Indiana where there's hardly any gun control law and buy a carload of weapons than to drive to a Chicago outlet mall.

Isn't DC near at least one state with very loose gun controls?

PFedorchuk
+3
Level 66
Mar 15, 2020
If gun control lowers the suicide rate, then why does South Korea, where guns must be kept at the local police station have twice the number of suicides per capita than the US? Japan also has a higher suicide rate and only 250,000 guns for 127M people.
Jacktheguy
+12
Level 89
Mar 15, 2020
Well obviously there’s more than one way to commit suicide. Ever heard of seppuku?
qcumber
+1
Level 45
May 14, 2020
From what I know, gun ownership does not correlate with murder, but with suicide.
Gamer1162
+14
Level 60
May 15, 2017
You do know that people can commit murder without guns, right? Knifes and good old fashioned hands can also kill anyone.
Thepokerguru
+64
Level 34
Feb 4, 2018
Yes, but you cannot kill with hands or knives in the masses...
charchar711
+77
Level 68
Jul 14, 2018
Yeah remember that time a knife rained down on 50+ innocent people killing all of them in minutes at a night club in Miami and a concert in Vegas? Give me a break!
RobNobody
+68
Level 76
Sep 16, 2018
If knives and bare hands are just as dangerous and effective as guns, then why do people insist they need guns to defend themselves?
martay
+16
Level 70
May 28, 2019
Violent crime and suicide attempts aren't necessarily more prevalent in the United States than other "western" countries. Guns, though, are far more prevalent and they're the reason the mortality rates for violent crime and suicide attempts is so disturbingly high. The fact is they make dangerous situations lethal.
Sifhraven
+9
Level 67
Sep 17, 2019
You can also cross the ocean in a canoe (or cut a tree down with a file) but people would be much less tempted to do so, because it is not as simple and easy. And you have to do them much more consciously, so take ownership of what you are doing af that moment,
IsleAuHaulte
+12
Level 89
Feb 27, 2020
I heard the U.S. Army is switching to knives because they are just as effective as guns and far cheaper.
Scodge
+1
Level 67
Mar 25, 2023
Great job missing the point
Sifhraven
+4
Level 67
Mar 4, 2020
I vote for slingshots :)
RoadmanM
+9
Level 56
Mar 15, 2020
I feel the mental barrier for killing someone with a knife is quite a lot higher than with a gun though. And of course the potential of taking out multiple people is way bigger with a gun.
kalbahamut
+13
Level 82
Aug 9, 2017
So Russia is not in Europe anymore?
FoxChaser
+17
Level 45
Aug 9, 2017
Well with 77% of Russia being in Asia, it's a topic of debate. Russia is typically categorized into both continents, or simply Eurasia.
kalbahamut
+30
Level 82
Aug 11, 2017
I bet if you discounted the entirety of the portion of Russia in Asia, it would still make the list.
AdamH
+4
Level 72
Jul 14, 2018
A large part of the last few centuries of European history involves the consequences of Russia wanting to be considered a cultural part of history and Western and Central Europe saying, "sure, you're a part of Europe *wink*."

So, no, other than geographically, Russia has never been part of Europe.

tshalla
+9
Level 75
Sep 16, 2018
Wow, Adam, quite the definitive take. No need to discuss this any further.
JackintheBox
+6
Level 79
May 28, 2019
@FoxChaser but the vast majority of Russia's population is in Europe.
roleybob
+13
Level 75
Feb 28, 2020
Adam - sorry but you're talking rubbish. From WP: 84.93% of the Russian population belongs to European ethnic groups (Slavic, Germanic, Finnic, Greek, and others).
PjotrL
+3
Level 74
Feb 28, 2020
The murder rate in the Asian part of Russia is significantly higher, but or course the smaller population numbers make the absolute numbers quite small. Still the Siberian Federal District has the highest number of absolute murders in 2017, despite it's smaller population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_murder_rate

roawa
+9
Level 34
Mar 17, 2020
Europe is just a minor peninsula on a much larger continent.
JonOfKent
+8
Level 56
Nov 19, 2020
I think that's stretching the word "minor" well beyond breaking point
Thorvald
+7
Level 69
Sep 12, 2017
You know that the criminals will always find a way to get a weapon and gun control is just preventing ordinary citizens from having a means of defence?
kalbahamut
+32
Level 82
Jul 14, 2018
While the argument that outlawing things is pointless because criminals will just break the law is almost unimaginably stupid and obviously leads to anarchy.... statistics do not strongly make the case either for or against gun control or gun ownership. It's more complicated than those on either side want to recognize.
TWM03
+11
Level 70
Aug 16, 2018
When statistics alone don't make the case for either side, we need to resort to reasoned argument. There are good reasons to believe that the majority of people do not need and should not have access to guns.
kalbahamut
+14
Level 82
May 28, 2019
I'm not pro-gun I'm just against bad arguments.
NauruPalau
+1
Level 50
Jan 30, 2020
Not a great argument but I agree with the premise. Places with high fun control in the states are even more dangerous than without, and guns stop criminals as we saw in the Texas church shooting recently. There’s no going back for the US so I’m pro gun here. Elsewhere is another story
IsleAuHaulte
+8
Level 89
Feb 27, 2020
^@NauruPalau Many gun enthusiasts do consider gun control their fun control.
kalbahamut
+10
Level 82
Mar 15, 2020
There's no going back? That's also a bad argument. Was there "no going back" when segregation and lynchings were the norm in the South? Was there "no going back" when half the country seceded from the Union to keep slavery? Or when Prohibition, or later crack cocaine, drove gang violence and murder rates to intolerable levels? Because a problem might be difficult to correct doesn't mean it's not worth trying.
determinedtobeatthis
+2
Level 68
Mar 15, 2021
Interesting that you bring up the Prohibition in this context. Banning alcohol only increased the black market value, so what makes you think that the same thing wouldn't happen in regards to firearms? In my opinion we should focus more on the violence and less on the tools that violent people choose to utilize. The Boston marathon bomber used pressure canners, in Oklahoma City they used fertilizer. Neither of those are evil things, but they were used by evil people to kill and injure many people at once.
kalbahamut
+1
Level 82
Aug 20, 2021
The point I was making should have been clear if you weren't determined to miss it.
jimhawkins90
+4
Level 73
Jul 14, 2018
That's interesting because Mexico and Brazil have very strict gun control. If you want to say that gun control correlates with less murders then you need to look at all countries with strict gun control, not just the ones that have low murder rates.
grantdon
+5
Level 73
Sep 16, 2018
Yes, but developing countries generally have more corruption in their bureaucracy and police as well as more porous borders. To be more accurate, try comparing "developed" countries against each other.
jmellor13
+5
Level 67
Mar 16, 2020
Not really. You need to look at countries who have gun control, and the effects before and after. It's impossible to compare the US to Brazil because there are so many different factors at work that they are incompatible. Gun control is *one factor* and it's worth examining, but it is no panacea. Pretty much everyone agrees that poverty begets crime and violence, so it's natural that poorer countries like Brazil have more violence than (generally) richer countries like the US. People get worked up about guns (for good reason), but their fervor leads them to treat guns as the only factor, when in fact it is one of many. In the US especially, there is a real cultural problem lately with white men and bruised egos (and I say that as a white man), which has led to an epidemic of hostile men shooting up public places out of some misplaced sense of vengeance. We need to address access to guns. And poverty. And the fragile American male ego, among many other factors.
KanzazKyote
+1
Level 87
May 28, 2019
Maybe because not even one of them have a fraction of the population of many of these countries.
CaoMaru
+6
Level 49
May 28, 2019
It's true that having a higher population will increase your murder count. However looking at the murder RATE, (number of murders per 100,000 people) we can find that the USA has a rate of 5.35, while Germany has a rate of 1.18. Measuring by rate per 100,000 will provide a less biased way of measuring. Of course, some of the countries on here would drop off when measured by rate, while others would be added, but your argument doesn't really work.
JWC1202
+4
Level 74
Mar 3, 2020
And while it is true that the murder rate of most European countries is much lower than that of the United States, many states have rates comparable to those of Europe: Idaho and Massachusetts 2.0, Iowa 1.7, Minnesota 1.9, New Hampshire and Rhode Island 1.5, South Dakota 1.4 (most lower than Belgium and Canada). Even California is a relatively modest 4.4. The rate for the country as a whole is skewed by places like Louisiana 11. 4 and Missouri 9.9.
driehoek25
+3
Level 66
Mar 15, 2020
Most murders in Europe are done with knifes and not with guns.
MrNoRide
+1
Level 34
Apr 20, 2020
Not all of these are from guns. There are many types of weapons.
EnlightWolif
+1
Level 45
Jun 11, 2020
do you know switzerland?
stoodmarsh
+1
Level 35
Jun 11, 2020
" not a single european country "

russia- aM i A jOkE tO yOu?

Masline
+1
Level 55
May 13, 2021
Russia is on this list now.
MrAllenIverson
+3
Level 50
Jul 2, 2022
Russia is European first off. Secondly, I highly doubt it's because of gun control. Because gun control does not equal less murders. Take Switzerland as an example. In 2007 they were 4th in the world for gun ownership. Fourth! LOL. There was only 7 million people in Switzerland in 2007. Yet no gun problem. Now let's look at China. China is one of the strictest on the planet for gun ownership. Yet they are on this list? It is entirely the people of the country. Taking guns away only takes it from good people. A criminal can still get a gun on the black market or on the street. In the USA we have a drug war that we can't solve. The cartel is just going to add guns to the menu. For the USA we need to invest in mental health, raise our kids better (raise our kids in general), end the drug war, and really economically try to improve the lower class. Even in the USA, some of the worst cities for murders have some restrictions of guns! Chicago, Baltimore, etc. Gun control does nothing.
AlmostAGenius
+8
Level 80
Sep 20, 2022
China is probably the worst example you could take from the list. This is by total number of murders and China has an enormous population. In comparison to most of the countries on the China has a much lower murder rate. And in response to your claim that gun control will do nothing, I think you’re exaggerating a little bit. Although I don’t believe gun control will completely solve the problem, I think it will certainly have an affect if it is applied throughout the entire country. Ideally, if we could get rid of all guns, then I imagine you would see a drastic difference.

As a Texan, I feel like the epitome of the effects no gun control is the recent Uvalde shooting. The kid, who was clearly mentally unstable and had no business owning a gun, legally went to a gun store and bought a gun.

AlmostAGenius
+6
Level 80
Sep 20, 2022
Honestly, what I believe would be most beneficial for our country would be to limit certain types of weapons, especially semiautomatic weapons, which are often what are used in mass shootings.
TheOrca
+1
Level 50
Sep 28, 2022
Or have some sort of system in place to prevent idiots and unsafe people from buying guns. It's not that hard to make people have to pass some sort of gun safety training, and/or prove their mental stability. While this obviously does not fix the entire problem, it is certainly helpful.
driehoek25
+1
Level 66
Sep 28, 2022
Then where are Serbia and Switzerland?
Howdareyou
+1
Level 34
Sep 28, 2022
You don't need a gun to murder someone. Anything can be used if you try hard enough.
MaddieMusser
+1
Level 32
Sep 28, 2022
what do you think russia is???? and gun control? shut up! literally on average 40% of Americans have a gun in their possession!
ctleng76
+1
Level 65
Sep 28, 2022
Yep, keeping all of those law abiding citizens from murdering others. Think about it. Gun control does not stop criminals. Criminals don't stop and say to themselves, "wait a minute, I need to apply for a permit before I can steal this gun."
Laosmouse
+1
Level 45
Aug 28, 2023
That's because European countries are smaller in population, no? This bunch is very similar to the population list, except the tail end European countries (UK, France, Germany) are replaced by countries that have government unrest and lawlessness.

America is a country that has roughly 9 guns per household. The fact that they're about where they should be in homicides (statistically) isn't proof gun control does anything.

tschutzer
+9
Level 91
Oct 7, 2015
Latin America is the murder capital of the world. 19 of the top 25 per capita murder rates by nation or independent territory are from Mexico on down. And Honduras practically laps the field with a rate nearly twice that of its closest competition (Venezuela).
Quizzer6794
+3
Level 65
Oct 15, 2015
Actually (and sadly), Honduras' murder rates are more than double those of Venezuela!
Quizmaster
+8
Level ∞
May 13, 2017
Not any more
Tramp
+11
Level 76
Oct 16, 2015
I bet a lot of undeveloped countries (most of Sub Saharan Africa/Afghanistan/Iraq etc) have higher murder rates in reality. It's just difficult to keep track.
Ponderosa
+5
Level 86
Oct 16, 2015
These are total murders, not murder rates.
Zooty
+1
Level 71
Nov 2, 2016
They probably have less trouble counting the number of people compared to the number of murders though.
POOCH
+1
Level 72
Mar 22, 2018
If the government, or others in control (cartels, organized crime, etc.) has sanctioned the murder do you think those are counted as murders or just unfortunate accidents or disappearances? And, is genocide counted as murder or is it strictly one on one conflict?
YantheMan
+2
Level 66
Mar 16, 2020
Yeah, I find it hard to believe Somalia wouldn't qualify. i suppose there's no one willing to count.
icazares
+10
Level 51
Oct 16, 2015
A bunch of developing countries + the United States. I wonder why :-)
kalbahamut
+5
Level 82
Aug 12, 2017
Russia is not a developing country.
AdamH
+4
Level 72
Jul 14, 2018
A better way to make the point is that the U.S. is the only member of the G-7 on the list.

True, Russia used to be part of the G-8, but that was a publicity stunt. It was always the G-7 plus Russia. Italy, the smallest economy in the G-7 per capita (PPP), is around 30th biggest. Russia is around 50th, and at least 1/3 smaller than Italy.

The U.S. is certainly an outlier in this list as much as people are trying to downplay it. the U.S. is around the 10th largest economy per capital, PPP. After that comes Russia around 30th, then Mexico in the mid-60s.

GeoDude
+2
Level 48
Feb 3, 2019
It is trying to develop, give it time
kalbahamut
+6
Level 82
May 28, 2019
Adam wth are you talking about? This and the previous comment you made makes it seem like you get all your information from some very anti-Russian websites that don't care about facts. Russia currently has the 11th or 12th biggest economy in the world and that's only because they've slipped a lot since the value of the ruble has plummeted following their adventures in Crimea. If you go by PPP, Russia's economy is 6th largest in the world. The G-7 is not and never has been about GDP per capita. If it were then Luxembourg and Monaco would be in it. Russia has fallen a long way from the time of the USSR but it is still easily among the most important countries in the world (and thoroughly European).
mahble
+1
Level 77
Feb 6, 2021
I think what Adam is trying to say is PER-CAPITA PPP, in which case Russia would definitely be lower than 12th. The point is in comparison to the other economies in the G7/G8, which are necessarily large and thereby exclude the likes of Luxembourg. Russia isn't on the same level as Italy, etc. in respect to PPP per capita, but it still has a large economy alongside its large population - that is why it has a seat at the table. The point Adam is making is that there are two characteristics of G7 members - 1) very large economy; 2) high per-capita PPP - and that Russia is an outlier in the 2nd.
Howdareyou
+1
Level 34
Sep 28, 2022
India, China and Russia are not developing countries. Hell, Colombia isn't really that far removed from developing either.
TheLonelyAlula
+1
Level 50
Sep 29, 2022
Um Russia, India, and China are most definitely developing countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country Russia is maybe on the upper end, but even Poland is considered a developing country and it is quite a bit more developed than Russia.
bocoker
+1
Level 78
Oct 16, 2015
To reinforce pansceder's comment, this is meaningless if not percapita (though granted, data quality is iffy at best) .
Soph1
+1
Level 49
Oct 16, 2015
No afghanistan, iraq, libya etc?
TheNewYork
+1
Level 35
Aug 21, 2017
Low population.thats why
shooblie
+8
Level 36
Jul 14, 2018
Completely untrue. Iraq has 37 million people; Afghanistan has 35 million people; Libya has 6 million, which is just as many as El Salvador--which did make the list.
manchesterutd10
+6
Level 55
Oct 16, 2015
The US is one of the highest because of its four top cities: New Orleans, Chicago, Detroit and Washington DC. If we took those cities out, then the US would not make this list. Those four cities are the strictest over gun control in the US. Honduras has the most per capita. Swtizerland has the least murders per capita. Honduras bans guns, Switzerland REQUIRES citizens to own guns. This is why we don't need to ban guns.
kalbahamut
+26
Level 82
Oct 16, 2015
Right because if you have a problem with something you should do nothing to try and address it. George Burns lived to be 100 years old. Aaliyah, who according to friends never drank or smoked, died when she was 22. So obviously if someone has lung cancer the solution is to smoke more cigars.

Legislating against anything is pointless because criminals won't obey the laws anyway. This is why there's no point in making murder, rape, or theft illegal. Also why we don't license people to drive cars. That just creates a hassle for law-abiding citizens since those who will drive without knowing are won't stop anyway and there's no point trying to stop them.

JackintheBox
+4
Level 79
May 28, 2019
@kalbahamut Good comment.
Malbaby
+3
Level 71
Dec 14, 2020
Don't encourage him!
tshalla
+2
Level 75
Sep 28, 2022
Well, the comment employs clear logic. And the one it was in response to deserved to be shredded.
Roxy7699
+1
Level 28
Oct 16, 2015
Good comment.
slkrr9
+10
Level 33
Oct 16, 2015
manchesterutd10's comment is a perfect case study in "cherry picking" your data to fit a predetermined narrative.
JoeCrouchMMA
+1
Level 60
Oct 28, 2016
Sometimes maybe look at things with a bit of common sense rather than try to be too analytical...
donkeyoattea
+4
Level 55
Apr 23, 2017
those cities are absolutey not the strictest gun control cities. detroit!? come on, people move to michigan just to pack
Quizmaster
+12
Level ∞
May 13, 2017
I'm not going to argue the validity of gun control, but @manchesterutd10 is incorrect. This isn't hard to look up. Remove the number of murders committed in those cities, and the U.S. is still easily on the list.
icazares
+7
Level 51
Aug 9, 2017
Completely wrong manchesterutd10. The states with the highest murder rate are states with little to no gun control. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate. Give a look at the top 15 States and let me know how many voted Republican in the last election (answer=11, including the top 4). If looking only at gun related murder, give a look at this list: http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/21/ (give you a hint, 14 of the top 15 are Republican). Alaska is at the top. Then you can go back and establish a more informed opinion about gun control.
DasCreamy109
+9
Level 47
Dec 9, 2017
Or if you really think about it, murder is higher in urban areas than others... Is your mind blown yet, manchesterutd?
JackintheBox
+1
Level 79
May 28, 2019
mind = B L O W N
jmellor13
+4
Level 67
Mar 16, 2020
Switzerland does not require citizens to own guns. It requires citizens to serve in the military, and while they're in the military, of course they own guns, but citizens who aren't in the military are absolutely not required to own guns, and most citizens don't own guns. The Swiss have around 25 guns for every 100 residents. Americans have around 125 guns for every 100 residents (which is incredible when you consider how many people have never owned a gun). Moreover, there are strict rules regarding the possession and treatment of guns, e.g., guns need to be disassembled and locked up when in the home. Conceal/carry permits are very rare. There are lots and lots of laws regarding Swiss gun ownership. We can have rational discussions about gun rights, but cherry-picking and egregiously characterizing information from NRA memes does not help anything. Manchester's comment is unmoored from fact, and should not be considered in any discussion about gun rights.
OneMoreDown
+1
Level 49
Oct 16, 2015
That thumbnail pic...
celebeth
+2
Level 70
Oct 16, 2015
So terrorism doesn't count as intentional murder?
Djilas
+2
Level 82
May 14, 2017
... or bombing
Quizzer6794
+3
Level 65
Oct 16, 2015
Hmm, the USA... it always seems to be the top in answer stats for quizzes!
DasCreamy109
+6
Level 47
Dec 9, 2017
We are good at a lot of things... :)
Budjettivaje
+3
Level 60
Oct 21, 2015
I can't be the only one who typed US first.
Quizzer6794
+5
Level 65
Oct 21, 2015
Well, 572 people typed US then gave up! You're not alone...
yoyo541
+1
Level 28
Feb 7, 2016
i did not know this stuff. but i dont want to but great quiz tho. look me up on search to play my quizzes and comment. if u do, ill play all of ur quizzes next weekend
Parinter
+1
Level 43
Jul 25, 2016
not surprise for Burma with the persecution of Muslims
Parinter
+1
Level 43
Jul 25, 2016
(in French) Et le gouvernement n'arrive pas à contrôler les tensions du peuple et il doit certainement y avoir encore plus d'assassins mais qui ont réussis à ne pas se faire prendre.
MumbleBear
+1
Level 44
Oct 30, 2016
More time, maybe?
kapulani3
+1
Level 74
May 16, 2017
I think better parameters should be noted considering almost none of the terrorist states ranked. I'm thinking not everyone or everything considered intentional is being counted.
Corrode
+3
Level 60
Aug 9, 2017
Per the source, the stats exclude deaths from wars/conflicts, so e.g. the wars in Somalia or Iraq and Syria are probably excluded. The data is most likely based purely on murder convictions, and terrorists often aren't convicted of anything - especially in states where there's active wars going on.
dogla305
+3
Level 61
Aug 9, 2017
If you draw a circle around mexico to colombia, you'll have 8% of the world population and yet 33% of all (registered) murders.
Drinker
+3
Level 66
Aug 9, 2017
In these moments, and when our politicians open their mouth, and many other things, that im so proud of my Brazil...
Diggerdog77
+10
Level 75
Aug 9, 2017
People are loving to bash the United States and pretend Europe is a safe haven. But let's remember, which continent imperialized the vast majority of the world? Europe, specifically the United Kingdom, Spain,and France. Which countries abused these colonies and pushed most of them into extreme poverty? Europe again. Which continent hosts numerous, numerous genocides on a large scale, the most recent being on the Balkan Peninsula? Europe! So yes, while Europe does have their lovely gun control, are they really that much better than any other place in the world? Not really. #ProudTurkishCitizen #TurkeyIsntEurope
Quizzer6794
+3
Level 65
Aug 9, 2017
Yes these are all facts. I agree!
grantdon
+5
Level 73
Aug 11, 2017
So things that occurred over 20 years ago (for the Balkans wars, other issues are much older) are relevant when comparing current murder rates - maybe European countries are doing something right?
kalbahamut
+16
Level 82
Aug 12, 2017
Not to disagree with your point about pretentious Europeans projecting their own insecurities, but... it's pretty funny that you end your rant about European colonialism and genocide with "#ProudTurkishCitizen"... might want to look up the history of the Ottoman Empire sometime. On a website not in Turkish. Perhaps as told from the Armenian, Kurdish, Greek, English, Palestinian (Jewish), Arab, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Serbian, Romanian, Russian or Byzantine perspective.
CaoMaru
+6
Level 49
May 28, 2019
And imperialism, and war in the Balkans is relevant to gun control, because.......... By the way, not to downplay the horror of European imperialism, but you might like to look at the USA's current involvement in Puerto Rico. Or it's interference in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and others. Which, yes, admittedly, some European countries were sadly involved in as well.
chitrajainn
+2
Level 55
Jul 25, 2020
It's relevant because hundreds of years of exploitation made European countries the richest while simultaneously making their colonies poverty stricken
ruftytufty
+2
Level 79
Sep 21, 2022
Sorry digger, you do realise that the USA is an archetypal settler country don't you? That it was created by European colonialism? That its 'manifest destiny' relied on mass slavery and genocide of the indigenous population?
geographyisthebestsubject
+1
Level 61
Aug 10, 2017
Is anyone else bothered by these numbers?
Quizmaster
+3
Level ∞
Aug 24, 2017
Murder rates are much lower today than at any time in history.
GeoDude
+9
Level 48
Feb 3, 2019
But if I get murdered, I'm bothered by it, no matter what the rate overall is.
wiifly
+2
Level 59
Feb 10, 2019
I don't think you CAN be bothered by being murdered, exceept for if there is an afterlife
kaiadam
+3
Level 72
Sep 11, 2017
All of these added up equal what, 200k a year? Add up the deaths per year of these countries and I'd imagine we're talking somewhere around 70 or 80 million/year. So 3 deaths out of every 1000 caused by murder in the countries with the most murders in the world. That sounds kinda pretty damn safe to me, it's far more uplifting than worrisome.
TWM03
+1
Level 70
Aug 16, 2018
Could you specify what time period these murders occurred in?
kalbahamut
+13
Level 82
May 28, 2019
trying to establish an alibi?
TWM03
+7
Level 70
Aug 20, 2021
As long as they weren't at 6pm on 11th January 2017 I promise I'm innocent.
protector441
+3
Level 48
Dec 29, 2018
It was very surprising not to see Thailand and Indonesia there...
kalbahamut
+3
Level 82
May 28, 2019
Indonesia's absence surprised me, as well, though if the numbers I found and my math are correct then Indonesia's population x its very low murder rate (0.5 per 100k) gives it only about 1/3 as many murders as El Salvador.
Quizmaster
+3
Level ∞
Dec 30, 2019
Indonesia's murder rate is suspiciously low. I am very skeptical of their data.
Tramp
+1
Level 76
Feb 27, 2020
Why? Thailand's a fairly safe country. So is Indonesia for the most part, but they have a massive population, so I'll give you that one.
garcogait
+2
Level 66
Jan 27, 2022
Thailand also has a huge population of like 70 million
protector441
+1
Level 48
Dec 10, 2023
Again taking this quiz in 2023, again wanted to make a point, how I am surprised by the absence of these two countries. It is hard to believe, they could be better off than Bangladesh for example.
KanzazKyote
+1
Level 87
Feb 29, 2020
Your wikipedia source splits Iraq into three different sections. It should be on this list.
Quizmaster
+3
Level ∞
Mar 1, 2020
Look again and you will see that this is not the case.
dmc26
+1
Level 55
Mar 15, 2020
Wouldn't it be better to have murder rate per 1,000 population? This more or less correlates with population size. Also, it's conventional to call them 'developing' rather than 'underdeveloped' countries. It just sounds, you know, nicer.
FatSpartanJediLlama
+1
Level 67
Mar 15, 2020
Got Nigeria and South Africa in like the last 3 seconds
roawa
+2
Level 34
Mar 17, 2020
People talk about Japan and gun control a lot, but they began the process of banning guns as early as the 1600s, when arquebuses were fairly common among the peasantry who as conscripted infantry and decided battles. The Tokugawa not only rounded up private weapons and disarmed all commoners, but largely demilitarized private society and engaged in no major wars for most of its existence. The samurai were disarmed in the late 1800s taking away swords and replacing them with a large standing army, but these persisted until the US occupation in 1945. Guns continue to trickle out of US bases around the country, and there was a mass shooting at a gym in Sasebo as recently as 2007, after someone had acquired a shotgun. Gun control is surely worthwhile, but it can't be done only by legislation banning guns. Disarming a population is a messy process that can take generations, and is undermined by a large military and a militarized society. Gun control legislation itself will never be enough.
kalbahamut
+2
Level 82
Jun 11, 2020
yeah but after the government took away the guns, then everyone learned karate which was deadlier than any gun, so they kind of shot themselves in the foot.
Malbaby
+2
Level 71
Dec 14, 2020
How could they shoot themselves in the foot if they took away the guns?
kalbahamut
+1
Level 82
Aug 20, 2021
In this metaphor the people doing the shooting would be the same people who took the guns, so...
kalbahamut
+5
Level 82
Jun 11, 2020
Is that Bruno Mars in the thumbnail? Did he murder someone?
Baxtergrad
+1
Level 52
Dec 4, 2020
Nah, it's just Pappy Fats.
Aronya1
+1
Level 19
Jan 27, 2021
Brasil numero uno!!!
garcogait
+2
Level 66
Jan 27, 2022
why is it in Spanish?
Ainmclarach
+1
Level 55
Jan 3, 2024
That’s Portuguese, mate.
EconomicSnake
+1
Level 67
Mar 26, 2022
I beat 66.3%... but I missed the US :/
luxint
+1
Level 65
Sep 21, 2022
USA in some fine company there.
kapulani3
+3
Level 74
Sep 22, 2022
Considering it's about the number of people murdered and not percentage, it stands to reason that the countries that have the most people are going to be among the highest number of murders. Make it percentages and I would bet many, including the US, is removed and more European countries will be added. It doesn't help that the US is being invaded by many people that make up the rest of the list/
brandybuck96
+2
Level 83
Dec 19, 2022
The USA's murder rate is still about five times higher than the UK's regardless of raw numbers.
Mookie
+1
Level 79
Sep 21, 2022
Why is there a picture of Bruno Mars for this quiz? I doubt that he has killed many people. He's pretty short.
WillemLAif
+1
Level 76
Sep 27, 2022
The countries not really taking care of their poorest and their weakest topping the list, as always.
ChaosLord
+2
Level 74
Sep 28, 2022
Well, Russia is now murdering its citizens by sending them into the meat grinder, so does that count?
PatoPotato
+2
Level 52
Sep 28, 2022
Should've guessed the comments would be a flame war
rabble
+2
Level 66
Sep 28, 2022
The US should consider increasing their death penalty for violent crime. They're, at the very least, better than Mexico and South Africa.
kalbahamut
+5
Level 82
Sep 29, 2022
How do you increase a death penalty? You think we should put violent criminals to death twice?
Laosmouse
+1
Level 45
Aug 28, 2023
Not saying I agree with the OP, but it's pretty self explanatory. Use it more often?
level10account
+1
Level 28
Oct 3, 2022
instead of giving them 100 years in jail, we should give them 200 years in jail!!!
cz222333
+1
Level 40
Feb 2, 2024
I think PNG belongs on this list
Aoto327
+1
Level 68
Feb 12, 2024
Got all of them!
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