Argentina is the best example of country with both huge glaciers (perito moreno) and rainforests in misiones (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Iguaz%C3%BA as the best example of rainforest with the Iguazú waterfalls).
No, it's not. No part of Argentina, not even Iguazú Falls, has a tropical rainforest climate. I know it might seem that way, but in fact that is a Humid Subtropical climate. It says so in the article you cited. You will not change my mind nor will you change Quizmaster's mind if you bring up Iguazú Falls.
Yeah Thanks! In case any future comment-readers may be wondering, Argentina and does not qualify because its few areas classified under a tropical climate are not "tropical rainforest," and the Canaries actually don't have Tropical rainforest, just subtropical rainforest.
Hmm, dunno about that. Visiting Iguazú Falls in Argentina, by the Brazilian border, the surrounding forest is as tropical rainforest as you can get. The drive from the airport to its city (Puerto Iguazú) was the jungliest forest I've driven through.
Last summer (2019) I went to the Amazon in Peru and Brazil and then Iguazu falls on the Brazilian and Argentine side, all on the same trip. After comparing the two, Iguazu is only subtropical as the flora is a bit different. Although there are some similarities, so I can see why the above person mistook it for a tropical one. I've also been to tropical rainforests in Central America, Asia, and Africa to compare it to as well.
According to Wikipedia, at least one island in the Okinawa prefecture of Japan has a tropical rainforest Koppen climate, and we know it has glaciers on Hokkaido. Also, the Wikipedia page for Kondul Island, in the Nicobar archipelago in India, has a climate chart that qualifies it for an Af tropical rainforest climate, with at least 60mm of rain in each month on average and a nearly constant temperature year-round. We know India has glaciers in the Himalayas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondul_Island
Yes, I would like to include both India and Japan, but in order for this quiz to be re-featured those two countries were removed. At first glance it does not appear as though India contains the tropical rainforest climate, but actually the southernmost island in the Nicobars has a tropical rainforest climate, according to the wikipedia map that singles out the Af climate. So unless quizmaster considers Andaman and Nicobar to be an overseas territory, India should count.
Is there a reason France isn't included? I think there are glaciers in the French Alps, and tropical rain forests in French Guiana. My understanding is that French Guiana is not a territory but an overseas region and department, so is not excluded by the caveat.
Added several countries including D. R. Congo, France, India, and Japan. Also, since the distinction between external region and territory can be very hazy, I decided to allow external territories as well. This adds the United Kingdom to the list.
I would say that the UK doesn't have overseas regions in the same way as France but ok. Still, I wonder where on UK's territories you can find rainforest or glaciers...
Well, it does seem important if the quiz asks you to locate that physical geography into a political entity. Judging by the Levels of those debating this here, I don’t think there’s any point in setting out the difference between overseas territories and the overseas départements of France. But just for clarification, the political entity in which the Chagos Archipelago lies is the British Indian Ocean Territory, or BIOT, although both names are somewhat silly since they are no longer inhabited by Chagossians or the British, but by the American military… one of the most dispicable acts of theft that you could think of in the ‘post-colonial’ era.
I looked into this too, but while southern Hainan's forests definitely receive tons of rain, there is a "pronounced dry season," disqualifying it from an Af (which stands for tropical rainforest in the Koppen climate classification system) and making it a tropical wet-dry, or monsoon climate. Even if you were to include the disputed Spratly Islands, it would still be a monsoon climate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanya#Climate By the way, this is the same reason that we have to go all the way to the Nicobar islands to qualify India for tropical rainforest even when the state of Kerala has such lush jungles.
"af" is the Köppen tropical rainforest climate, which I used to define tropical rainforest for this quiz. China is not included because Hainan's rainforests are under the classification tropical monsoon, or "am." As to whether or not there is natural land with a tropical rainforest climate in the Spratly and Paracel islands, and whether or not jetpunk considers them part of China, I leave up to Quizmaster. Also, if we are considering the UK's tropical and glaciated territories, to be consistent New Zealand (Tokelau, ect.) and Australia (Heard and McDonald) should be added.
It's doubtful that it will mean anything due to the disputed nature of the island and its administration by Malaysia, but out of all the islands in the Spratly group which have naturally occurring land, the southernmost one, Swallow Reef, has an Af climate according to Wikipedia. All the other islands either have no climate data because they're completely untouched, or they have a monsoon climate. That means that even including the southernmost disputed islands administered by China, the tropical regions of China have dry seasons that are too dry to be rainforests.
Jerry, the place you went in Argentina has a humid subtropical climate, according to koppen. That's a similar climate to the southeastern US. And I agree, when I was in Louisiana it felt like a tropical rainforest, but actually it isnt quite.
I've added Chile because I found out that Easter Island has a tropical rainforest climate and there appears to be some wild forest in Ranu Kao, even though the vast majority of the island's forests and native trees have been killed.
I know this quiz is constantly being renewed, and that's why I was conflicted about adding Chile after people had commented about that. But I ultimately decided it was better that the quiz be accurate. I think you would agree. As for why it's happened so much, the quizmaster tightened and then gradually loosened the qualifications for this quiz. Concerning the additions of Japan and Chile, I'm sorry I initially overlooked those countries' inconspicuous tropical islands and caused you the inconvenience of retaking my quiz. Just keep in mind that many featured quizzes are updated due to overlooked information, and the consequence of not reseting is an inaccurate quiz.
Agreed. Thank you for making the quiz and updating it based on user feedback. Worst case scenario is that people have to take it again, but people come here to take quizzes so...
New Zealand is covered in rain forest but it is either temperate (South Island) or sub tropical (northern North Island). However the quiz includes tropical islands. Two of which, Cooks and Niue, should be independent countries but Jet Punk (& the UN) disagrees. Tokelau is a tiny coral atoll with the highest point only 5 metres above sea level. I don't think it has any rainforest. Kermadecs are subtropical only. So strictly speaking if you include the self governing nations of Cooks and Niue as part of NZ then it does have a small amount of tropical rainforest
Tokelau does have Tropical Rainforest. Its elevation is great enough to support forests in a Tropical Rainforest Climate. If you don't believe me look at it on google maps or read about it on wikipedia.
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It does not. All of the glaciers in New Guinea are on the Indonesian half of the island, which has higher mountains. There is pretty clear evidence of Pleistocene glaciation in Papua New Guinea, with the summits of Mount Wilhelm and Mount Giluwe exhibiting textbook cirque and tarn features, but there are no glaciers there right now. Those peaks, while high, are still a couple of thousand feet below the highest summits in Indonesian New Guinea, which support small glaciers.
The wiki page of Easter Island actually says it has a Cfa climate, though very close to Af. In any case there don't seem to be any forests there anymore. So in my opinion, Chile should be left out.
Which part of the Andes? I'm kind of curious now. Did you assume their width stretched all the way through Bolivia or Peru? Or maybe you thought the northern part of the Andes curved back around into the Guiana shield?
Welp, now I'm going down a rabbit hole looking for the name of the [lowlands?] separating the Andes from the Guiana Shield. Orinoco Basin? East Venezuelan Basin?? Completely lost.
Not tropical, according to the classification system used. I don't know why people have such a hard time understanding that. The fact that something looks like a jungle doesn't make it a tropical rainforest.
Myanmar (Burma) should be included as well. They have the Hkakabo Razi Glacier and multiple tropical Rainforests, including ones in the same National Park as said glacier.
I'm not seeing anything classified as Af (tropical rainforest) for Myanmar. A majority of the coast is made up of tropical monsoon (Am) and a lot of the interior is tropical savannah (Aw), but not Af.
Keep in mind that the only reason India made it onto this list is because of a small area on the Nicobar islands, not the mainland itself.
Lots of jet punk quizzes prompt me to research something/somebody and go down the rabbit hole, but this quiz is the most interesting I've had to date. It led me to this very interesting video by climber James Price 'The Call of the Karakoram', in Pakistan/Tajikistan, no AFs but the longest non-polar glacier range in the world. Beautifully done, take 23 minutes and watch.
This would appear to corroborate Werifesteria’s position…
I've followed the link on the quiz description and then clicked on "Af" blue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_rainforest_climate
but if this is the case, then what about Chile? Should it be included?
https://en.climate-data.org/europe/spain/canary-islands-217/
According to Wikipedia, at least one island in the Okinawa prefecture of Japan has a tropical rainforest Koppen climate, and we know it has glaciers on Hokkaido. Also, the Wikipedia page for Kondul Island, in the Nicobar archipelago in India, has a climate chart that qualifies it for an Af tropical rainforest climate, with at least 60mm of rain in each month on average and a nearly constant temperature year-round. We know India has glaciers in the Himalayas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondul_Island
Rainforest: Pitcairn Islands, Montserrat, and the Chagos Archipelago
Also, Shouldn't China be Included? A quick google search shows this https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201909/02/WS5d6ca5d6a310cf3e35569315.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_1_Glacier
In any case, please make any changes you need to and resubmit. Thanks!
Can I add new zealand?
I'm assuming it's Hokkaido and Ryukyu that make this possible?
Cool quiz nonetheless! :D
Welp, now I'm going down a rabbit hole looking for the name of the [lowlands?] separating the Andes from the Guiana Shield. Orinoco Basin? East Venezuelan Basin?? Completely lost.
Keep in mind that the only reason India made it onto this list is because of a small area on the Nicobar islands, not the mainland itself.
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=578479838&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS974US974&q=Karakoram&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7paCe8KKCAxW6J0QIHc7qAUcQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=1055&bih=527&dpr=1.77#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:cd993f73,vid:2XA4TZjQ56U,st:0