Starting from the northernmost point of mainland Afro-Eurasia, going clockwise, trace the outline of the countries by correctly naming each country along the way.
Read the caveats!
You might have to name a country multiple times.
Oversea territories are excluded. Hence Gibraltar, and Spanish territories in Africa aren't valid
I'm confused about Ceuta and Melilla though. I thought they were part of Spain, like French Guiana is part of France, and not overseas territories like Gibraltar. Other featured quizzes seem to think so e.g. "Countries by Bordering Flags #2", where the Spanish flag is given for Morocco. And they aren't on Wikipedia's list of dependent territories.
Me too. But I consider that the difference between the status of the Spanish territories of Ceuta/Melilla and the UK territory of Gibraltar is no more than semantics. Basically they are bits of Spain and UK respectively, separated from their respective mainlands. But then I'm biased; I'm Gibraltarian. I notice that Crimea is included as part of Russia though that doesn't have any proper status.
I'd also like to point out that after you move along the coast from Belgium to the Netherlands, you come back to Belgium again. More than once, I fancy.
Isn't the main difference that Ceuta and Melilla are constituencies of Spain that vote in general elections and have representation in the Spanish Parliament? I thought Gibraltar only voted on matters relating to the EU, but I'm no expert.
Ceuta and Melilla were excluded on purpose, that's why they had special mention in the caveat. And for Crimea, it is JetPunk standard that Crimea is considered Russian.
Sure, saw the caveat, I didn't think it was an oversight. Just confused about their official status, or whether there's an official Jetpunk position on them. Some people/quizzes seem to consider them part of Spain and others don't.
Re the Netherlands/Belgium point, I don't think that's true unless you include the estuary of the Scheldt as part of the coast. At the point where the NL/BE border is, I think it's pretty clearly a river.
Apart from that, I don't think there's anywhere you could say the coast goes back to Belgium - all the various Belgian enclaves in NL are well inland.
I was confused too by Ceuta, Melilla and Gibraltar.
Belgium/ Netherlands; if you follow the Westerschelde, you’ll end up in Belgium again, but Westerschelde is de estuary of the river Schelde, so you can’t consider it as part of the coastline.
Ceuta and Melilla are definitely considered Spanish territory and there are also another enclave that could be added. Peñon de Velez de Gomera is attached to Morocco by a beach. Others, Perejil, Alhucaimas and Chafarninas are islets also considered Spanish territory but not physically attached to the continent.
Just because it is JetPunk “standard” doesn’t make it correct, like how Wikipedia is somehow a reliable source, or that Taiwan is in any shape or form a country.
Would be nice to name exclaves/different sections when possible. Even something like Angola (cabinda) or Senegal (north) and Senegal (south) would be nice when looking through answers.
Good quiz. I wasn't able to get a good score because the directions are quite confusing. Also, if you're going to capitalize "Country", then you should capitalize words like "Going, Trace, Outline, etc.".
I would’ve wanted overseas territories to be included though. It would be way more interesting and challenging in regions like Morocco, Crimea and the Kaliningrad area.
Kaliningrad and Crimea are not excluded here, only Gibraltar and Spanish Territories in Africa are, as Kaliningrad and Crimea(according to JetPunk) are oblasts of Russia. And being honest, it wouldn't have been challenging with them around Morocco as it would only be naming Morocco and Spain alternatively for 4-5 times each. And I think with this successive repetition of answers, it would become a bit boring for quiztakers. That's why they are specifically mentioned in caveat.
Yes, I know that Kaliningrad and Crimea weren’t excluded. But what I meant was that some features in both regions like the Curonian Spit and the Arabat Spit, respectively, are split between two countries, and including them would require repeating the countries’ names’ in an unexpected sequence and amount of times. And for the Spanish territories in Morocco, yes, I know that it might bore some people to repeat the names several times, but I personally find doing so interesting cause I sometimes forget about some obscure ones like Peñon Velez de la Gomera. I guess this is just a personal preference of mine because I could learn a thing or two like those spits I mentioned above. I should’ve been more specific in my original comment. :DD
I had to remember that the International Court of Jetpunk has recognized Russia's seizure of Crimea, but not their setting up the Republic of Abkhazia (or it would have gone Georgia-Abkhazia-Russia along the Black Sea). Keeping up with ICJ rulings can be tricky.
True, only a Jetpunk map would show this quiz's sequence. A Russian map would go Georgia-Abkhazia-Russia-Ukraine-Russia-Ukraine-Romania. A European or American map would go Georgia-Russia-Ukraine-Romania.
In general there seems to be no fundamental legal differences between states such as Kosovo, Abkhasia, and Palestine. Depending on your general set of legal norms you may see all of them be something between "occupied territories" or "souvereign states". As long as you do it consistently. Thus, I don't understand why JP recognises Kosovo and (here) Abkhazia but not Palestine.
Sort of criteria: Russia controls Crimea, Kosovo controls most of its territory and has partial recognition, Abkhazia lacks recognition, Palestine lacks control.
Crimea is part of Ukraine not Russia. Russia is illegally occupying it. A significant majority of the world's countries have made it clear that they recognise that Crimea is a part of Ukraine.
It is not that hard, first I took the JetPunk standard map of world, and deleted countries not in this quiz, including landlocked countries landlocked countries of Afro-Eurasia. Then I selected all countries and converted the them to stroke directly by an option in inkspace. It gave me the boundry of these countries, including their inland borders. After that, I drew a custom line intersecting the stroke of a country at the two points where the border of that country touches both coast and another country. For example, China, I drew the line such that it intersects where the coast meets South Korea and Vietnam. Then I selected stroke of China and the custom line and used 'Cut Path' option from path tab (Shortcut Key: ctrl+alt+/). It divided the stroke of China into two parts, one which represents coast and one which represents all land borders of China. I deleted the border stroke which left me with only the coast of China. I had to do this with every coastal country, ...
... and multiple times with countries such as Saudi Arabia, which have multiple coasts.
Another thing one can do is trace the entire coast, but it would be very lengthy, and what I did would be more efficient. My process might seem hard at once, but after doing it with 5-6 countries, it will become pretty easy.
For me, it took me around 6-7 hours, over the span of 3 days, to make this SVG, but the first couple hours were just me trying to figure out how to do this by trial and error. If I knew from the beginning how to do this, it would have taken me about half the time.
I could have, but I didn't wanted to. What I did might seem very lengthy at once, but it isn't. Once you have converted every country to stroke, all you need to do is draw a line and press a combination of keys, and repeat it until the map is ready.
One of the best quizzes yet. Done in 4:14. A few nits: Do you want to include Ceuta, Melilla, and Gibraltar. I think that those would make it more accurate.
Lovely quiz, thank you so much for putting precious time into making it! My only usability difficulty was having to scroll back and forth between the list of country names and the map itself to keep orienting myself. It would be nice to be able to see more of both on the same screen, especially for goldfish brains like myself :D
Because of the Vistula and Curonian Spit, the actual Trace would actually be Germany - Poland - Russia - Poland - Russia - Lithuania - Russia - Lithuania - Latvia. That would be challenging :)
I am spoiled by the countries of the world quiz in that I can just enter Congo and it gets both countries automatically. I really need to remember the actual name of each country from now on.
Very interesting idea. Having to name disconnected sections of the same country definitely raised the difficulty level. You got the time about right too. Just enough to come back and think about a few of them. But I enjoyed the challenge anyhow! Only Turkey (forgot) and Angola (didn't know) tripped me up.
I'm confused about Ceuta and Melilla though. I thought they were part of Spain, like French Guiana is part of France, and not overseas territories like Gibraltar. Other featured quizzes seem to think so e.g. "Countries by Bordering Flags #2", where the Spanish flag is given for Morocco. And they aren't on Wikipedia's list of dependent territories.
I'd also like to point out that after you move along the coast from Belgium to the Netherlands, you come back to Belgium again. More than once, I fancy.
Apart from that, I don't think there's anywhere you could say the coast goes back to Belgium - all the various Belgian enclaves in NL are well inland.
Belgium/ Netherlands; if you follow the Westerschelde, you’ll end up in Belgium again, but Westerschelde is de estuary of the river Schelde, so you can’t consider it as part of the coastline.
Overall, a great quiz!
What's going on with the Istanbul area - is that intentional?
The way I looked at it yesterday I thought it was overlapping, but it's just the Sea of Marmara almost closed off at either end.
Another thing one can do is trace the entire coast, but it would be very lengthy, and what I did would be more efficient. My process might seem hard at once, but after doing it with 5-6 countries, it will become pretty easy.
For me, it took me around 6-7 hours, over the span of 3 days, to make this SVG, but the first couple hours were just me trying to figure out how to do this by trial and error. If I knew from the beginning how to do this, it would have taken me about half the time.