I didn't even think of trying Italy, France, Belgium, Austria and some other highly caffeinated european countries. Turkey is the only one (a bit) surprising.
I go to Starbucks to get what I want, I don't give a damn if its' "good" or "bad" coffee, what I want is the thing that matters. Also I don't have to think if it's overpriced or not.
Also known as "top 10 countries not full of pretentious full-of-crap coffee snobs." I saw plenty of Starbucks in France and plenty of people going there to get coffee.
Well, you certainly didn't see plenty of Starbucks "in France"... You saw them in Paris where they are only concentrated. And, being a born and raised Parisian, I can guarantee you that 90% of the people you saw inside are tourists visiting Paris ;)
Yes Paris is in France and is full of tourists as explained.
How do you explain there are almost no Starbuck outside Paris in France if it is not due to the tourists going there and not the French people themselves ?
Starbuck is not dumb if they know they could earn money they would build shops everywhere, but they don't so...
this is rarely much substance behind snobbery. It's as often as much about hating something popular as it is about liking something of superior quality.
Snobbish rejection counterexample: "Marseille locals fight to save a beloved McDonalds": https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/world/europe/france-marseille-mcdonalds.html
Why are they snobs just because they don't like Starbucks? People have different tastes, it's not about being snobby. I don't care, because I don't like coffee in general.
Btw, I'm not surprised you chimed in again as soon as someone else didn't like/criticised something from your precious America. Seriously, it's like you have the need to defend the US on every. damn. quiz.
Disliking something popular doesn't make you a snob. Sticking your nose up at it because it is popular (and thus "low class"), while having an exaggerated, unwarranted, loudly professed love for some allegedly superior but less mainstream other product, while condemning those who like the product for their poor taste (such as accusing them of being less cultured tourists) does make you a snob. It's the bloody definition of the word.
.... because.... ... Europe is the mainstream popular product.... and.... the USA is the smaller, less popular, less well-known, alternative.... that... "cultured" snobby people say they like to be hip?
If you're going to try to parade your bigotry out under the guise of saying something clever it might help if you were actually clever.
There's a lot of pretentious coffee snobs (as well as other kinds of pretentious snobs) in the U.S., too. Hipsters are everywhere, bragging about how they don't like stuff now that it's popular.
Disliking the brand, its products and its strategy does not necessarily make you a snob.
Moreover, people who go to Starbucks in Europe can be considered very snobbish too, happy to walk down the street with their 5€ cup of coffee as if they were in a TV Show.
In coffee country (Starbucks HQ), where I live, the coffee snobs don't go to Starbucks. They go to some local coffee shop with small batch roasting and organic pastries made from local ingredients.
Starbucks isn't for coffee snobs any more, it is for people who don't know any better. With the advent of Fraps and Pumpkin Spice, Pecan Maple, and Sugar Sugar Lattes, the coffee snobs have abandoned it. Starbucks is largely a sugar delivery service and less and less about the coffee.
Starbucks is the biggest scam ever. you walk inside and order a small coffee and it ends up costing you a fortune! starbucks tastes awful and looks like crap. i live in USA and the only starbucks i know is infested by white girls who post every starbucks they get on instagram or snapchat. way to go starbucks.
Starbucks is what it is, retail chains tend to lose their cool factor as they grow. There will always be something "cooler" or "more authentic" or what have you.
I guess that's why the world has snobs and hipsters, to figure all that stuff out for us, so the rest of us don't waste our time worrying about it.
I got everything but Turkey. Count me among those who tried Indonesia.
Interestingly, one of the best examples of failed business attempts was Starbucks to Australia where they didn't do their research on the market. The post WW2 immigrants from Italy, France, Greece, UK, the US themselves and local Australians meant the market was already so competitive Starbucks in Australia collapsed really quickly.
A point of pride for our country, I think, at risk of being called a snob. I think Australia has one of the best developed coffee cultures in the world.
How do you explain there are almost no Starbuck outside Paris in France if it is not due to the tourists going there and not the French people themselves ?
Starbuck is not dumb if they know they could earn money they would build shops everywhere, but they don't so...
Many, many people agree with me.
Don't even get me started on Belgium.
Btw, I'm not surprised you chimed in again as soon as someone else didn't like/criticised something from your precious America. Seriously, it's like you have the need to defend the US on every. damn. quiz.
If you're going to try to parade your bigotry out under the guise of saying something clever it might help if you were actually clever.
Moreover, people who go to Starbucks in Europe can be considered very snobbish too, happy to walk down the street with their 5€ cup of coffee as if they were in a TV Show.
Starbucks is very expensive here compared to what you can get in a bakery or a standard café. So I would not say it's a "popular mainstream product" (a cup of Starbucks latte is almost as expensive as a whole McDonalds combo - which is a better example of "popular mainstream product").
Starbucks isn't for coffee snobs any more, it is for people who don't know any better. With the advent of Fraps and Pumpkin Spice, Pecan Maple, and Sugar Sugar Lattes, the coffee snobs have abandoned it. Starbucks is largely a sugar delivery service and less and less about the coffee.
As quoted from their website
I guess that's why the world has snobs and hipsters, to figure all that stuff out for us, so the rest of us don't waste our time worrying about it.
I got everything but Turkey. Count me among those who tried Indonesia.