This quiz has been updated to include the borders of French Guiana. Why? Because it is an overseas region that legally has equal status to the French metropolitan regions.
@YamanekoYep but even here in France not everyone think like that and everybody is supposed to be VERY aware that French Guyane is a region. The quiz is pretty clear and logical.
Je confirme, Saint-Martin n'est pas une région ou un département français comme la Gironde (en France métropolitaine)ou la Martinique. Saint-Martin est comme la Nouvelle-Calédonie ou St Pierre-et-Miquelon. C'est une collectivité d'outre-mer et non un département.
Parinter, I just started studying French a month ago, and I have been feeling a little dejected by my lack of progress. But I just understood (or think I understood) your whole comment. Oh, glorious day. J'apprends le francais.
Je répète encore une petite fois (et en même temps ça fera un peu apprendre du français à tout le monde), Saint-Martin est une collectivité d'outre-mer et donc n'est pas un département, par contre la guyane française est une département de France et là on peut prendre conscience des frontières de guyane dans le cas de Saint Martin ce n'est pas possible.
D'ailleurs, c'est un département, la Guyane Française donc ça fait parti de la France metropolitaine et pas des "overseas regions" car ce n'est pas un territoire d'outre mer en résumé
When it comes to Sint Maarten, it depends whether you are counting fully independent countries only or if you are including constituent countries. Sint Maarten IS a country but it's not fully independent as it is a part of the Netherlands. If you want a comparison, it's like how England is a country in the UK.
I know it says you don't count collectivities, but I think you should because I did some research and everything I found said the collectivities are of equal political status as the departments.
Assumedly, you refer to Saint-Martin (Sint Maarten). Saint-Martin, however, is an Overseas Collectivity of France, a territory looked after by France. French Guiana, which borders with Brazil and Suriname is an Overseas Department - a fully recognised region. This means French Guiana is an actual part of France, with representation in the French Assemblée nationale and votes in the European Parliament - the same as Guadeloupe and Martinique. This is akin to Sint Maarten, which is a part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, which may be whence your confusion springs.
French Guiana, Guadalupe, and Martinique is to France as Alaska and Hawaii are the United States. They are very much not colonies...
Similarly, Sint Maarten (Dutch side), Aruba, and Curacao are to the Kingdom of the Netherlands as Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales are to the United Kingdom. Also, very much not colonies.
Between the caveat at the top that states precisely which areas are included, and the fact that the quiz is divided clearly into "Metropolitan France" and "Overseas Regions"... you'd have to be pretty thick or just not paying attention to not figure out that French Guiana was included. If the latter, then specifying French Guiana was included wouldn't help. I'm assuming that the 50-60% who missed the Guiana bordering countries simply don't know where Guiana is or were not aware that it's a part of France.
I left that out because St. Martin is not a region of France, but an overseas collective. The difference is that French Guiana is part of France, analogous to Hawaii in the US. St. Martin is a territory, much like Guam or Puerto Rico of the US. St. Martin is not a PART of France in the same way that French Guiana is.
So does that mean the capital of Australia isn't in a region of Australia given that it is located in a territory, and not in a state like Hawaii is to the US?
Saying that French regions are like [US] states, and French collectives are like [US] territories, feels like trying to seek an equivalence between different jurisdictions that may not really apply. Saint Martin and French Guiana are both undisputably a part of France, so shouldn't the countries they border both be included?
No the distinction between US states and French regions is something, but it just supposes to reflect what the subdivision of state. Territories on the other hand are something else in both cases, and very similar.
What I have been able to find says that France has both overseas territories and overseas collectives, and the collectives are more like US states than territories in terms of their legal status and abilities.
@ Quizmaster. Not true, it's a part of France, just like Saba, St. Estatius, Bonaire...etc. are part of the Netherlands. Saint Martin is part of the European Union as a part of France, and even has the Euro as its currency. The fact that it is not a Departement, like French Guyana, does not mean it isn't part of France.
Panama, Ecuador, Lebanon, El Salvador, East Timor, and The British Virgin Islands, among other places, use U.S. dollars as official currency. They are not part of the United States.
Though I see your point. However, QM did say it was not a part of France "in the same way" as French Guiana. He didn't actually say it was not a part of France (full stop).
It is not the same kind of part of France. French Guiana is a "département", like Paris or Finistère in Brittany. Saint Martin is a territory, like new Caledonia or Tahiti. In the french parliament, French Guiana has representants, Saint Martin hasn't.
this is how I read virtually all comments about someone's performance. Some of these other inflections might just be in your head. Something to think about.
how do you consider brazil and suriname being bordering france?? They're both in south america. They're as much bordering france as the United States are...
I'm pretty sure this is the only quiz that I've ever NOT gotten 100% on but still received 5/5 points. (I missed Suriname, because...I have no good excuse. I just forgot it existed apparently).
The Netherlands should be included. The island of St Martin is part French and part Dutch. Since they border each other, the Netherlands should be included. The french part of the island is an overseas collectivity, and it is known as the Collectivity of St Martin. The other side, the Dutch side, is known as a "constituent country" within the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Since both are parts of their country respectively, the Netherlands should be included in the quiz. As for Suriname and Brazil, it is included in the quiz due to French Guiana being an overseas territory of the French republic. Does this make sense?
"I left that out because St. Martin is not a region of France, but an overseas collective. The difference is that French Guiana is part of France, analogous to Hawaii in the US. St. Martin is a territory, much like Guam or Puerto Rico of the US. St. Martin is not a PART of France in the same way that French Guiana is."
Duh! Can't you read any comment, or just Google it.. French Guiana is not a territorry owned by France, it is plainly part of France as any metropolitan french regions. They have parliament representations and one of the very last minister of Justice (who created the gay marriage law) is from there.
I think that it was already explained by Quizmaster why he won't do so though, of course, I disagree with him. You're right, it should be included, as neither are "territories".
Having read all the comments on this quiz when so many people have already brought up the St Martin/Sint Maarten thing, I really just want scream! This is so tiresome (but amusing at the same time!)
To be clear, France has a border with Netherlands because Saint-Martin is part of the French region of Guadeloupe (which is included the same way Guyana is into the country of France).
As a French citizen, I learned it after the Irma ouragan. I din't know it before but, yes, we share a border with Netherlands and there is no doubt about that.
I am going to add some nitpicking on this subject. There are many comments above about Sint Maarten. To be strictly accurate one should say that Sint Maarten is a constituent country of the state "The Kingdom of the Netherlands", as is "The Netherlands". Thus Sint Maarten is not part of the Netherlands. Confusion arises because rather lazily, generally people also use the term Netherlands to refer to the Kingdom of the Netherlands. I hope that is clear.
I assume you're talking about St. Pierre and Miquelon, which are very close to Newfoundland in Canada, but have always stayed under French rule, even after Canada gained its independence.
Actually, The overseas regions of France is Martinique, Mayotte, Reunion, French Guiana and Guadeloupe. If one of these Islands shared a country border then it should be on the List.
Seems like an awkward choice to include the overseas region of French Guiana but not St. Martin. I understand it's a different legal category, but it's weird for the feel of the quiz.
I get that especially North Americans routinely associate the fleur-de-lys with France, but to French people, that's a little weird. In fact, the fleur-de-lys is considered to be a symbol of monarchy in France. It was an emblem of the kings, since Louis VII. It is not used anymore, neither officially, nor unofficially, to represent the country. The analogy is far from perfect, but it's a bit like using the confederate flag to represent the US. Would you consider changing the illustration?
Just as a point of information, the fleur-de-lys is still included in the coat of arms of both Lyon and St Barthélemy and, by extension, on the unofficial flag of St Barthélemy.
Furthermore, on the island of Saint-Martin / Sint Maarten which is a "overseas collectivity", France does actually border the Netherlands. However, overseas collectivities are semi-autonomous while overseas regions and deapartments have the same status as metropolitan France. Therefore, it was the right decision not to include the Netherlands.Good job!
I don't get the little text excerpt thing from under the quiz in the September 2, 2022 daily featured quiz. This quiz was easy. When I read that piece of text, I thought it would include *all* French overseas territories and islands and stuff. But the description told me otherwise. This quiz really was easy, and that little excerpt comes off really cocky.
And I don't think many people on Jetpunk don't know the existence of French Guiana, or would have thought this quiz was hard.
But if you are hardcore, you'll tell the three overseas borders and don't forget the extremely unkown shared with Netherlands ;)
French Guiana = metropolitan department of France
Sint Maarten = overseas region
But Parinter is right - the metropolitan departments are different. French Guiana should count and Sint Maarten should not.
French Guiana, Réunion, Guadeloupe, Mayotte, Martinique = Alaska, Hawaii
St-Martin, St-Pierre, St-Barthélémy, Wallis and Futuna = Guam, USVI
New Caledonia = Puerto Rico
Similarly, Sint Maarten (Dutch side), Aruba, and Curacao are to the Kingdom of the Netherlands as Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales are to the United Kingdom. Also, very much not colonies.
No, the quiz is fine as is. Enough hints are given already.
Correct, but you should also include Netherlands, since on the shared island of St. Maarten/ St. Martin both countries have a land border.
I can't believe I missed Luxembourg. I thought I typed it in.
"I left that out because St. Martin is not a region of France, but an overseas collective. The difference is that French Guiana is part of France, analogous to Hawaii in the US. St. Martin is a territory, much like Guam or Puerto Rico of the US. St. Martin is not a PART of France in the same way that French Guiana is."
[Also, thanks for the easy 5 points]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana
As a French citizen, I learned it after the Irma ouragan. I din't know it before but, yes, we share a border with Netherlands and there is no doubt about that.
So mad at myself...
https://www.jetpunk.com/create-quiz/1377605
new zealand , norway etc..
That's true
French Guiana, Réunion, Guadeloupe, Mayotte, Martinique = Alaska, Hawaii
St-Martin, St-Pierre, St-Barthélémy, Wallis and Futuna = Guam, USVI
New Caledonia = Puerto Rico
And I don't think many people on Jetpunk don't know the existence of French Guiana, or would have thought this quiz was hard.