It's not the same really. The QM features 5 quizzes daily. Rarely does one of them earn a separate blog post on the topic it covers on the same day. The blogs are independent of the quizzes, aren't they?
Actually there are often quiz subjects or questions that relate to the day's blog post. And often questions on multiple quizzes featured on the same day that are related. If you pay attention.
I paid 3x as much in Norway for a bunk bed in a hostel dormitory room as I was paying in Ukraine for a nice modern condo in a high-rise building adjacent to the beach with floor-to-ceiling windows overlooking the Black Sea and free garage parking. Insanity. And for the cost of the bridge toll going from Malmo to Copenhagen I probably could live for a month in the Philippines if I was willing to give up certain comforts.
I just mean if I rented a room or got a modest apartment somewhere. But if I really wanted to live for less than the cost of that bridge toll for a month then I'd have to give up mobile data on my phone, any kind of night out that cost money, girls, eating out and most of the variety in my diet. That, in addition to rent, is what I spend most of my money on when I'm in the Philippines as I am right now. I'd also have to stop rescuing stray kittens off the street and trying to find homes for them- as I typically end up paying for some food and vet bills. Done that 3x in the past month alone.
Insanity. Insanity, that a country which has a low level of income also has low costs. You as a rich traveller come in and are comparatively richer in Ukraine so enjoy a good life amongst the poor but have a less good life in comparison to the Norwegians earning just as much as you. Actually it makes complete sense. The costs are relative to the amount they earn. It is really a non-observation that a person who has the luxury to travel can buy more where others around are poorer. The disparity is greater than you state in fact, as a one bedroom rental may cost $200 in Ukraine and the average wage is $360/m whereas in Norway renting the same space would be $950 and the wage may be around $3000 meaning the rent is 4.5 times higher but the wage is 9 times more. For the Norwegians then that rent is actually comparatively cheap. The problem you have is you are travelling around with your savings trying to buy into someone else's culture.
wow. deep. That's so insightful and brilliant. Especially what you did there at the end. You've really got me figured out. One of the best comments I've ever read here. It makes perfect sense what you said and wasn't nonsensical Russell Brand style word salad at all. Lucid, clear, spot on. Bravo, Internet culture warrior. Keep fighting the good fight, comrade.
It's always good seeing someone call out kalbahamut. He probably had to open a bottle of rare French wine and put on his designer slippers to cope with getting owned so hard.
Nah. I'm saving up my money to buy into other people's culture. Because, you know, that's totally something that people do and very relevant to bring up when someone is observing the outrageous difference in cost of living from two countries not that far away. Incidentally I never drink wine and have never owned slippers and I live very modestly but given that you are responding positively to this comment I'm not surprised that these things escaped your powers of perception.
Kalbahamut is doing the logical thing -- if you have no ties to a particular region, live where its cheap. I will collect a private pension in 4 years ---- I'll spend at least six months of the year in cheap places -- I want to live in places while its still cheap and hasn't been destroyed by hordes of western tourists looking for the next "in" spot.
Who the heck "buys" into another culture? People are interested in other cultures, and sometimes immerse themselves in studying it. The only way someone might 'buy' into a culture would be to pretend to be part of it when you don't care about it besides it being popular in your social circles.
Price differences are pretty insane if you compare some places. Obviously it will depend on wages, but in @kal's example it is pretty amazing to think the hotel in Ukraine was worth so much less just because it was in Ukraine. In Switzerland I once went to a restaurant that tried to charge CHF 9.00 (USD $9.20) for a litre of water. That was insane whatever way you look at it given that there were taps outside you could use for free. I think it kind of makes sense to charge a lot for the bridge though, because it must presumably have cost a lot to make and the people using it will by definition be international tourists and so they won't be able to tax them as easily to fund it.
Remember these numbers are averages and prices can vary widely within a country. Where I live in Missouri prices are relatively cheap, but in Honolulu or Washington D.C for example, prices are much higher. A tourist visiting Boston would come away with a much different view of prices from that of a tourist visiting Memphis.
Yes, there will of course be variation within a country as well, although I would imagine this variation would be less in smaller countries like Switzerland or Norway.
I went to the coffee shop in St Mark's Square, Venice, which is supposedly one of the first places in Europe to ever serve coffee. I laughed and walked away when I saw that a can of Coke was going for $12.
Restaurant price is composed of many other things besides material costs. And the bridge connects two cities/countries with regular commuters, not just tourists
I don't remember if the rankings have changed significantly or entires have been added or taken away since the last time I took this; but I'm surprised that Germany shows up over some other places like Kuwait, the UAE, and some of those Pacific island nations. But the latter may be excluded due to the population restriction. I'm also surprised that Israel isn't higher in the rankings.
Also the very high taxes to fund their education, health service, pensions, sick pay, and many other government costs. Most of Scandinavia is there for this reason.
I guess I misread the instructions. I thought all the countries were in comparison to the US, therefore the US would not be among the answers and I didn't even try it.
Huh. Only 58% get the United States, even though the quiz description says "based on the ratio of prices levels to those of the United States" and one of those ratios is 1.00.
I was one, I assumed that the US wouldn't be in a quiz that compares the prices in countries against those in ehh the US. I assumed the answer was a country with prices all but identical to the US. Clearly not.
I agree, but do wonder why Malta isn't on the list. It is much more densely populated than most other micro-nations and so has to import virtually everything - maybe buying in bulk saves money??
Yeah being in the Caribbean is quite a bit different than being in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Import costs make everything in Oceania expensive; makes sense.
The Caribbean? Malta is in the Mediterranean Sea. A few Caribbean countries did make the list (unless I'm using the wrong definition of the Caribbean, which is possible as I think there is a technical definition excluding some North American island countries).
I can't forget paying $800 a month in Israel to sleep in what was essentially a closet. Other stuff there wasn't so expensive, though. Just the housing prices were out of control.
In my experience Norway was substantially more expensive than Sweden, which was substantially more expensive than Finland, but I might not have had to buy some of the things that they consider when analyzing this.
I saw a different list not long ago where Switzerland was ranked as the #1 most expensive country and Norway was ranked #2. That list seemed to be more accurate. I also think Kuwait should probably be above the United States.
If prices are compared to the USA already, it is ridiculous for us to assume that the USA will be an answer in the quiz itself. You should remove this.
Kind of funny Singapore shows up on the most expensive cities list but not here on the most expensive countries. In my own experience I found Singapore to be cheaper than the USA... but I know that certain things there can be very expensive such as real estate or importing a car. Anything that takes up space has a high premium.
I noticed no countries in the EU were on the list. Does this mean the Euro is equivalent in all countries in the EU? I guessed a lot of them thinking they might be like the U.S. states them, where money is worth more in some countries/states than other, i.e, Calfornia and Nevada.
Some of these seem silly. There's nothing you can buy in Tuvalu, I've been there. Just food, rent and a moped. Very few shops and restaurants. It's tiny.
“Hint It’s expensive to import things onto islands”
Cue me trying Fiji, Samoa, Nauru, Kiribati and the long shot of PNG. All wrong, so I moved on and left the Pacific islands (I got Australia and NZ). In the Caribbean I tried Dominican Republic, Jamaica, St Lucia, St Kitts, Trinidad&Tobago, and Antigua. All wrong. So I moved on a decided your hint was rubbish. Then I saw the answers.
I couldn’t have done a better job of picking wrong answers without trying.
The people there live very modestly or on subsidies probably. I know that's how it is in Samoa. The basket of goods they use to calculate this index might not include things that the average local buys. It's more geared toward expats.
Believe what you want, but the hint about the expense of importing to islands was all the prompting I needed to rattle off all of the Pacific island nations. Unfortunately I wasn't as thorough with other island nations so I missed Barbados and the Bahamas. Still, considering what I know about Jetpunk users I'm not surprised by the percentage that got it correct.
What vermiciousknid said. With the hint about islands being expensive, I immediately started by typing in every single country in Oceania and the Caribbean -- even before I moved on to the "obvious" nordic countries & Switzerland.
I hadn't the foggiest clue, before loading the quiz, that Solomon Islands would be on such a list. But it was an easy one to get anyway.
I would say it certainly is. However, they also have a population far above 50,000 people. Over 10x that. Though only 1/33rd the population of New York City.
I missed that one too. After seeing it, I kinda get it -- I have to imagine it's related to the international sanctions.
With the quiz' "last updated" date being so recent, I was wondering if one of the changes made might have been the addition of Russia, due to the sanctions over the Ukrainian war. So I tried Russia... and then for good measure North Korea, also for sanction-related reasons. (As kalbahamut mentions in another comment, the "basket of goods" they use to calculate these is often geared more to expatriates than locals, for any number of economically sound reasons; and these would have been hit hard by North Korean sanctions.)
I'm mostly kicking myself that after striking out on Russia and DPRK, I gave up on that line of thought and didn't bother with Iran... the only answer in the quiz I missed.
Many countries not on the list that, having been there, certainly feel more expensive than the US.. Austria.. Monaco.. Kuwait... do they only consider prices in New York City or San Francisco for this list? The large majority of cities and states in the US are much cheaper than Sweden.
Agreed. I can make some educated guesses as to what kinds of basket of goods they might use to derive the index. But where in any given country they would select to poll the prices is a complete black box to me.
My only guess here would be: places with a high expatriate population? Maybe? I'm not particularly married to that guess though.
It makes the tiny (esp. South Pacific etc.) nations fairly accurate, as there isn't going to be a huge difference across the country.
But for places with a large disparity--really any large and urban+rural country, from the USA, to Russia, to South Africa, to Brazil, to Indonesia... and heck especially places like China and Japan--it's basically a crap shoot. I could imagine a rationale for putting them pretty much anywhere on the list, depending on where prices are polled.
And when one of said countries is being used as the baseline against which the list is measured... yeah there could definitely be better clarity around that. 😕
I wonder how Sri Lanka fares on this right now? Their economic crisis has led to out of control prices and the fact that they are an import-dependent island country probably doesn't help.
Can USA already appear on the list as given? After reading the instructions I was comparing all countries to the US. I see that different people also seemed to do the same.
*Everyone trying to roast Kal*
haha we all kno u hve slipped b4 haha
I really didn't expect to see the US in this list of answers, I confess.
I was looking for another country with the exact same level of prices... I tried Canada 10 times...
Top of the list is landlocked.
Cue me trying Fiji, Samoa, Nauru, Kiribati and the long shot of PNG. All wrong, so I moved on and left the Pacific islands (I got Australia and NZ). In the Caribbean I tried Dominican Republic, Jamaica, St Lucia, St Kitts, Trinidad&Tobago, and Antigua. All wrong. So I moved on a decided your hint was rubbish. Then I saw the answers.
I couldn’t have done a better job of picking wrong answers without trying.
I hadn't the foggiest clue, before loading the quiz, that Solomon Islands would be on such a list. But it was an easy one to get anyway.
With the quiz' "last updated" date being so recent, I was wondering if one of the changes made might have been the addition of Russia, due to the sanctions over the Ukrainian war. So I tried Russia... and then for good measure North Korea, also for sanction-related reasons. (As kalbahamut mentions in another comment, the "basket of goods" they use to calculate these is often geared more to expatriates than locals, for any number of economically sound reasons; and these would have been hit hard by North Korean sanctions.)
I'm mostly kicking myself that after striking out on Russia and DPRK, I gave up on that line of thought and didn't bother with Iran... the only answer in the quiz I missed.
Finland is cheaper than Sweden, too.
My only guess here would be: places with a high expatriate population? Maybe? I'm not particularly married to that guess though.
It makes the tiny (esp. South Pacific etc.) nations fairly accurate, as there isn't going to be a huge difference across the country.
But for places with a large disparity--really any large and urban+rural country, from the USA, to Russia, to South Africa, to Brazil, to Indonesia... and heck especially places like China and Japan--it's basically a crap shoot. I could imagine a rationale for putting them pretty much anywhere on the list, depending on where prices are polled.
And when one of said countries is being used as the baseline against which the list is measured... yeah there could definitely be better clarity around that. 😕