Can Tibet become a free country

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Tibet want's to become a free country but will china let it be free. not without a fight. Tibet needs to befriend is neighbors so they can free it. the main country it needs to ask for hep is India. They should ask India for help because they have the 4th strongest army in the world. Another main country it needs help from is either Bangladesh or Myanmar. Some major countries Tibet needs help from has to be the USA or Russia. USA because of their technological advancements and Russia because the weather in Tibet is either cold or freezing and Russia can hep them fight in the cold. Then Tibet will have to use its mountains terrain to its advantage so they can defeat China and be free. Once they become free the main problem will be their economy and having enough countries to recognize their independence. Their economy is the easier to fix problem because China will not allow Tibet to become free. The economy is the easier to fix because they have lots of minerals and some countries might be willing to trade with them and help them stabilize their economy Plz comment down below if I missed something

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Level 75
Feb 10, 2021
Before I question the grammar...

- Russia and China are close allies

- The foreign soldiers might suffer from altitude sickness

- China won't give them the chance to even enter the territory

- Foreign powers probably won't want to offend an economic power they somewhat rely on

- You probably forgot that Chinese soldiers already exist in Tibet, so the PRC can also use the terrain at their advantage

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Level 75
Feb 10, 2021
Oh and I forgot to mention, China has the largest standing military force in terms of sheer numbers and they have absolute ground superiority within their own controls. You can't forget that part.
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
Yeah I remember that's why Tibet needs help from India and such because if Tibet becomes it own country, then India will have less border problems and that might stop China from selling Pakistan arms
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Level 53
Feb 10, 2021
Why would Tibet declare independence now? They have been under Chinese rule for nearly seventy years, and the proportion of ethnic Tibetans is at an all time low.
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Level 60
Feb 10, 2021
Tibetans are uniquely different from Han Chinese.
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Level 57
Feb 10, 2021
Why would they want independence anyways? They're probably better off as being a part of China
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Level 55
Feb 10, 2021
Yeah agreed, I'm not sure how it would make sense for a 1.1 million population country to have an area larger than Kazakhstan
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Level 51
Feb 10, 2021
Yeah, it'll basically be uninhabitable except for a few cities, and probably just have a million people or so. Plus, even the U.S. will probably need allies if they wanted to defeat China, despite their ginormous military. I'm afraid India and an army of probably a few thousand people cannot defeat this worldwide superpower.
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Level 55
Feb 10, 2021
And nobody will invest in such a war. While India's military is absolutely capable of taking on China, they won't just overpower China!! A war in this scenario will last 10+years.

China doesn't even exert a lot of authority on Tibet anyway, they just keep it as a safegaurd.

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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
China has 1.6 million personnel and India has 1.4 million personnel
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Level 53
Feb 10, 2021
India has 4/10ths of a person serving?
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
Sorry fixed it
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Level 62
Feb 10, 2021
Why would they not? Under Chinese occupation, their cultural identity is being attacked and sinoized, and Tibetian people are being economically marginalized. Not to mention the many attrocities commited by China after the invasion.
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Level 51
Feb 10, 2021
Agree kinda with KingEureka, but Tibet's economy would be dead without China. China gives Tibet most of its resources.
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
Tibet has lots of minerals so they would be fine if some people started mining and they started trading
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Level 57
Feb 10, 2021
@KingEureka, not this Indian propaganda again...
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
What do you mean again?
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Level 47
Feb 10, 2021
Take a look at this quiz, (look at the region of Kashmir) https://www.jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/1271285/countries-of-the-world-by-sports
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
oh I see. @KingEureka gave all of Kashmir to India.
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
Who are you talking to
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
oh ok
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Level 66
Feb 10, 2021
Fact: Tibet is geographically part of China since they're on the same side of the Himalayas, but is culturally closer to Nepal/India. Also, if India controlled Tibet, Nepal would be fully encased by India (although Nepal probably wouldn't care). Still, I think it being independent is still more reasonable than it being part of Nepal.
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
I agree with Nepal wont care. India protects both Bhutan and Nepal.
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Level 62
Feb 10, 2021
What part of it do you find to be propaganda? That the Chinese invasion of Tibet didn't take place? Or do you think that there's no forced cultural assimilation happening in China occupied Tibet?
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Level 62
Feb 10, 2021
Do not spew random bs, if you are not knowledgeable about the subject. Tibetan culture is close to the heart of many Tibetans living in exile. The tibetian people have been facing great atrocities since the Chinese invasion. I have personally interacted with Tibetian people, currently living in Dharamshala, who were forced to flee China.
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
Who are you talking to?
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Level 55
Feb 11, 2021
Probably to Pandora. And I agree with king. The Tibetan people are being harassed, and no one can deny that. But its just that China has gained so much influence in the world. The only adequate time to liberate tibet if needed would've been the 1990s, but India was already fighting a war with Pakistan then.
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Level 75
Feb 10, 2021
Yeah, I agree with this. Anyone who studied basic econ knows that an underdeveloped economy would normally only be quickly repaired by a strong autocratic leader. China's economy has been on a staggering growth since Deng's era and will certainly continue to grow. Seceding from China means that not only will Tibet lose economic support from the PRC, but they will also have much less trading opportunities since the CCP will not be facilitating trade.
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
I didnt learn economy cuz im still a kid
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Level 59
Feb 10, 2021
It sounds like you just thought of this yourself, and didn't even try to bother researching information about Tibet from experts that actually know what is happening. Also even though this is readable I would like if you would add more information about Tibet instead of talking about other countries helping Tibet who is the main topic of your blog.
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
I did some research. Thanks for the feedback. I'll fix it
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Level 52
Feb 10, 2021
Why should they separate? They rely on China economically, politically, almost every way. Besides, a Tibetan war of indepdence would end in a nuclear showdown.
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Level 62
Feb 10, 2021
As much as I would love Tibet to be liberated, I don't see it happening in the near future. Chinese military and political influence in the world is way too large. Also, as someone else mentioned the population of ethnic Tibetans in occupied Tibet is at an all time low. Tiberian culture under Chinese occupation is being forcefully diminished day by day. It has become is hard to see Tiberian cultural identity surviving for long.

The only chance of liberation of Tibet in the next 30 years is extreme political instability in China or with India overtaking China in terms of Global influence.

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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
India might overtake China in global influence because Modi is building relationships in big countries and if India make enough friends, it will have way more global influence
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Level 55
Feb 10, 2021
I'd love to see India being a major player on the world stage, but currently, internal problems, and border disputes stop it from exerting its influence.
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
Very true.
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Level 56
Feb 10, 2021
China would never let Tibet be freed. If not economically, but Tibet is a huge advantage to China geographically. The biggest enemy of China among its bordering countries is definitely India, and the Himalayas serve as a good geographical plus to keep Indian soldiers away from China. And I don't see any good reason other than cultural identity for Tibet to break apart. It might be a bit hard for Tibet to thrive on it's own. For several stuffs, Tibet would have to rely on India and China, and due to the extreme terrain between Tibet and India, transporting goods between the two countries would be extremely hard.

To sum it up, Tibet it the side character, of a movie, that nobody cares of; but secretly it is the reason movie is still running in theaters.

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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
That is true. I want Tibet to become a country because if China keeps giving Pakistan arms then maybe that will be it and all of India's allies like Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, And the USA might attack Pakistan. But if Tibet becomes free then that might Stop China from selling arms. Sadly now Putin has started selling arms to Pakistan as well to increase tension
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Level 55
Feb 10, 2021
The only reason China want's tibet is because its mountains protect China from invaders.
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Level 14
Feb 14, 2021
Who says they are only India's allies? Iran and Afghanistan are more allies to Pakistan than to India. Iran was the first country to recognize Pakistani independence and Pakistan and Afghanistan are good allies too. We don't need any attacking now.
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Level 35
Feb 14, 2021
yes that is why Iran and Afghanistan sent surgical strikes on Pakistan. Because they are really close friends
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Level 55
Feb 14, 2021
And when pakistan became independent, Afghanistan was the only country that did not recognize it. Afghanistan has openly claimed Pakistan's territory because they want all ethnic Pashtuns to be in Afghanistan. Iran doesn't like Pakistan too much either, because Pakistan is majority Sunni and Iran is majority Shia.
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Level 35
Feb 15, 2021
Also true.
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Level 55
Feb 16, 2021
And abby, Russia(USSR) was the first country to recognize Israeli independence. You think that determines friendship? Quite the opposite here.
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Level 75
Feb 10, 2021
Right, I didn't consider that. Trade with Tibet would be essentially impossible. All of the borders not with other Chinese subdivisions are essentially the Himalayas and not even planes would dare to fly through this part of the world. It's both dangerous and not worth the cost. That would mean that if Tibet would ever be independent it probably will suffer a lot as seceding from China means tough relations with the party. The populace is poor but the cost of living would be high as foreign investors cannot make it in there easily and everything would have to be imported. The economy would already be at an all-time low and that would worsen the situation.

Well also consider the fact that it might get annexed back. :P

TL;DR - The economy will suffer if that is to ever happen due to the geography and political reasons. Tibet is better off staying an autonomous region as they're reliant on PRC and they'd probably "make it back in" after just a bit of independence.

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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
There are only 2 ways trade can survive in Tibet.

1. India makes a train pass through the Himalayas

2. India makes a train pass under ground.

If either one of those happens then Tibet might last

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Level 75
Feb 10, 2021
You have to consider the cost of construction of this railway. India won't bother supporting the secessionist movement if it means a lot of investments with such high risks that are essentially just a gamble.
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Level 55
Feb 10, 2021
I'd disagree with that. India will probably do whatever they can to make sure they have the mountain defense.
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Level 59
Feb 10, 2021
Exactly. Tibet is a big reason why China has been able to begin the Belt and Road Initiative (if you don't know what it is, it's supposed to be the successor to the Silk Road). Losing Tibet would almost certainly wipe out any hopes of the project being finished and China would lose lots and lots of money. For India and the United States, freeing Tibet wouldn't really be beneficial either. It would likely escalate into a world war and both nations are facing internal problems. Not to mention the loss of life that would come out of this war. It's a lose-lose situation here. While Tibetans are being diluted by China, it's not something that any other nation will likely support.
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Level 35
Feb 10, 2021
Thats where I disagree. The only country that would do that is the USA because they have befriended India and they could start the project in India or Nepal
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Level 14
Feb 14, 2021
@limesus, I don't exactly see your opinion here. @yeetdeet has brought up an important point, trying to free Tibet will end up in a lose-lose situation. Loss for other countries be coz they depend on China's economy, loss for China be coz they lost the high-ground defense strategy against India.
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Level 60
Jul 20, 2021
Reading this, i can imagine Tibet saying, “Help me Princess Leia, you’re my only hope.”