The Profile of a Team: Atlético-MG

+4

My heart pulses with this team I love so much. And after 50 years, a Brasileirão conquered, and, finally got a two-time championship, that used to be a joke of our rivals. I thought “I need to do a blog about my team, especially after this marvelous season”! So, we’ll see the history of Galo in this blog. 🎵 VAMOS GALO! GANHAR O BRASILEIRO! 🎵 🎵 E O GALO? O GALO GANHOU! 🎵 🎵 EU. ACREDITO! EU. ACREDITO! 🎵 🎵 AI CREDO, O GALÃO GANHOU MAIS UMA VEZ! 🎵

NOTE: I actually started writing this when the Brasileirão (Brazilian Championship) was still running on, because the chances of the title were really huge lol! I mean, 98.5% chance (while writing), what would you freaking expect? And I, writing this blog, would be a shame and international joke (my whole school would laugh at me, friends and supporters of Cruzeiro and even Flamengo... 😑) if Galo doesn't win Brasileirão, although Atlético slides in the worst times possible... but what an Atleticano needs to know to be Atleticano is “to suffer but get out with the victory, and never abandon the team”. I also wanna note, the data might change, but 90% of it is about the time I wrote. So... let’s just start... ;-;

First info

First Info
Logo
NameClube Atlético Mineiro
Adept/FanAtleticano
MascotGalo (Rooster)
Main rivals
  • Cruzeiro
  • América Mineiro
FoundationMarch 25th, 1908 (113 years)
StadiumArena MRV (in construction) (47,465)
Game command
  • Mineirão (61,846)
  • Independência (23,018)
AnthemListen here
PresidentSérgio Coelho
CoachAlexi Stival (Cuca)
Main sponsorBetano
Sportive materialAdidas
Competitions (2022)
  • Campeonato Mineiro (1st)
  • Campeonato Brasileiro - Série A (...)
  • Copa do Brasil (...)
  • Copa Libertadores (...)
CBF Ranking (6) 3rd place, 14,572 pts
Official websitehttp://www.atletico.com.br/

History

Clube Atlético Mineiro (known only as Atlético and whose acronym is CAM) is a Brazilian football club based in the city of Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais. Considered one of the most popular football clubs in Brazil, it has the sixth largest crowd in the country. Founded on March 25, 1908 by a group of students, its traditional colors are black and white. However, the club's original name was Athlético Mineiro Football Club. It's most popular symbol and nickname is the Rooster (Galo), the official mascot in the late 1930s.

A representation of Galo
Galo Doido on 2012

First years and the “campeão dos campeões (champion of the champions)”

Although it has worked in other sports over the years, its recognition and main achievements were achieved in football. The club is the biggest champion of the Campeonato Mineiro with 47 trophies, in addition to being the biggest winner of the Clássico Mineiro (Atlético VS. Cruzeiro), and also the Clássico das Multidões (Atlético VS. América). At the national level, it was Brazilian champion twice, in 1971 and 2021 (I TOLD YOU!), and won three other official national titles: the Copa dos Campeões - Champions Cup (FBF) in 1937, the Copa dos Campeões - Champions Cup (CBD) in 1978, and the Copa do Brasil, in 2014 and 2021 (I TOLD YOU TOO!). Internationally, it has four official titles: one Copa Libertadores da América, two Copa Conmebol (see? We already had a two-time championship, although toda a former competition) and one Recopa Sudamericana. Whoops! I said well in the beginning that Atlético didn’t have a two-time championship? But there are two trophies of Copa Conmebol! Actually, this competition doesn’t exist anymore, but it’s a predecessor of Copa Sudamericana. Other former competitions I quoted, include both Champions Cup (Copa dos Campeões). 

The first match of Galão da Massa, was against the former team Sport Club Foot-Ball on March 21st of 1909, winning the match by 3-0. The first goal of Atlético was made by Aníbal Machado, that would many years later become a famous name of Brazilian Literacy. Sport asked for new match, losing by 2-0. Another match, and lost by 4-0, making the extinction of the club. On 1914, the Taça Bueno Brandão (Bueno Brandão Championship) was organized by the former federation of soccer of Minas Gerais. Guess? Galo was champion. The first Campeonato Mineiro in history was organized one year after, where Atlético won. Actually, that wasn’t enough for the complete hegemony of América, who won 10 consecutive titles (1916-1925), making the Americanos (fans of América) proud of this conquest (well, the only one basically 😐 I mean, they are doing a new conquest this year: the only time they didn’t was relegated on the year they participated in Serie A, and also the first international competition, which is Libertadores ;-;).

Back to Atlético. To break América’s sequence, Galo built a team with big players, including the so-called “Trio Maldito” (Damn Trio), featuring the players Said, Jairo, and Mário de Castro. They were all forwards. About Clássico Mineiro, the match against Cruzeiro (rhyme time, and that’s already another rhyme), Galo made Cruzeiro (at the time called Palestra Itália) fall on the field in 1927. Galo was already traditional, and Cruzeiro had only 6 years of foundation, but no one would expect an elastic scoreboard of 9-2 by Atlético Mineiro. This game is still a motive of discussion of Atleticanos and Cruzeirenses. Cruzeirenses saying this never happened, Atleticanos saying it did... but Wikipedia has a page talking about the game, so Quizmaster is on our side 🤣. On 1929, they built the Antônio Carlos Stadium (former). It was the first stadium of the state with illumination. The inauguration of the illumination of the stadium in 1930 had the participation of the president of FIFA at that time, Jules Rimet. The first international match of the state was against Vitória de Setúbal (Portugal). Atlético won by 3-1. In 1937, what we can call the first competition at the interstate level of the country happened, the Copa dos Campeões, featuring some clubs winners of state championships. The winner was Atlético with a team featuring Kafunga, Guará, and Zezé Procópio. Currently, there is a process to regularize the title of Copa dos Campeões as the first national competition, like what was done with Taça Brasil and Torneio Roberto Gomes Pedrosa (Robertão). 

The team on 1915
The club on the 30s. Emphasis to “Trio Maldito”: Said, Mário de Castro, and Jairo
Atlético’s crest in the 1910s

Excursion to Europe and victories against national teams

We have a big time jump to 1950, when the German Football Association went to Brazil to choose a team to do a series of friendly games in Europe. The trauma of Maracanazo (where Brazil lost the 1950 Cup — which was held in the country — against Uruguay in the finals by 2-1), and WWII, where both countries were on opposite sides, made the clubs of Rio-São Paulo axis refuse the proposal. This opened space for Atlético, which was chosen by the Germans. In adverse climatic conditions, the team made an amazing campaign (only two losses, against Werder Bremen-GER and SK Rapid Wien-AUT), receiving the title of “Campeões do Gelo” (Champions of the Ice), which is an expression that appears on the team anthem.

These are all the games of Galo on this excursion. Winner in bold (so, Galo in bold 😜):

  • TSV 1860 Munich (GER) 3 VS. 4 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)
  • Hamburger SV (GER) 0 VS. 4 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)
  • Werder Bremen (GER) 3 VS. 1 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)
  • FC Schalke 04 (GER) 1 VS. 3 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)
  • SK Rapid Wien (AUT) 3 VS. 0 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)
  • 1. FC Saarbrücken (GER) 0 VS. 2 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)
  • RSC Anderlecht (BEL) 1 VS. 2 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)
  • Eintracht Braunschweig (GER) 3 VS. 3 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)
  • Union Luxembourg (LUX) 3 VS. 3 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)
  • Stade Français (FRA) 1 VS. 2 Atlético Mineiro (BRA)

On 1968, Galo played against the Yugoslavia National Team. The result? 3-2 for Atlético, with an amazing comeback. The game happened in Belo Horizonte, and Yugoslavia was a big team at the time. In the second round, Yugoslavia was winning by 2-0 on a full Mineirão. Historical comeback from Atlético (which was playing with Brazil National Team Uniform), which intensified the nickname of vingadores (avengers). Atlético is on a select group of teams that have beat Brazil. This happened in 1969, with a win by 2-1. The game happened to celebrate the classification of Brazil in the 1970 World Cup (in Mexico), as well as the 147th Independence Day of Brazil. I should remind that the Brazil team would be one year after in the 70 World Cup, the champion (being the first three-time-champion of the world). On the game against Galo, a team of stars like Carlos Alberto, Rivelino, Tostão, and none other than the Rei (King) Pelé.

Independência for the (recent) past, Mineirão for the present, Arena MRV for the future...

Those times, Atlético was playing on Antônio Carlos Stadium, the Prado Stadium (1929-1968), demolished in 1994 for the construction of Diamond Mall. I wanna quote also the inauguration of Governador Magalhães Pinto Stadium, the Mineirão, a folkloric stadium of not only Brazil, but all South America. Inaugurated on September 5th of 1965, receive games from Atlético Mineiro, and of Cruzeiro (sometimes of América Mineiro). Is the 5th biggest stadium of Brazil, accommodating 61,927 spectators. The Gigante da Pampulha hosted 5 finals of Libertadores, an Intercontinental Cup, and was chosen as one of the stadiums that hosted 2014 World Cup (being reformed for that). The same Mineirão, received the terrible defeat of Brazil, by 7-1 against the Germans (although we actually make joke of it lol). It was the first stadium of Brazil, and the second of the world, to receive the maximum category on sustainability, and along the Architectural Complex of Pampulha, is a World Heritage from UNESCO. Another stadium now, Raimundo Sampaio, the Independência (also nommed as arena), which is propriety of América Mineiro, but received games from Atlético. “Indepa” was inaugurated in 1950 for 1950 World Cup. A curiosity, is that on this stadium, the inexpressible USA won the candidate for the title, England on the Cup by 1-0. A reform was made between 2010 and 2012, and the stadium has a capacity for 23,000 spectators.

Aerial view of Mineirão
Interior of Mineirão
Independência on an Atlético’s game
Another view of Independência

Let’s say Atlético doesn’t have a stadium for call it “yours”. But this is ending. The team is currently on the final stage of construction of Arena MRV, which can be one of the most modern stadiums of the world. This all for I doesn’t find any pictures on Wikimedia Commons... the construction will be finished in October 2022, but the inauguration will happen in the first trimester of 2023, with shows and friendly-matches. The cost is of 450 million to 560 million reais. Formally, the stadium is called Presidente Elias Kalil Stadium. The capacity may be of 45,414 spectators, and the project was made by the Farkasvölgyi Arquitetura. I didn’t find images on Commons, so these are some images I found: the last image I could find of the current construction and the final product.

First Brazilian Champion and Libertadores

Let’s go to 1971, 50 years back, for talk about the first edition of Campeonato Brasileiro. I wanna quote, that a Brazilian league started on 1959 (with Bahia winning the title), but with the name of Taça Brasil, and was also called Robertão until 71 with the actual denomination (some other changes though during the time). The team wasn’t so favorite for the trophy. They needed to take out of the “circus”, Santos of Pelé, Corinthians of Rivelino, Botafogo of Jairzinho, and São Paulo of Gérson. You know where we’ll stop now lol! The team built stars, like Lola, Spencer, Cincunegui, Oldair, Tião, and Dario (Dadá Maravilha). Commanded by the giant Telê Santana, the team won the first edition of Campeonato Brasileiro, against São Paulo. The team would feature even more players that would make a more brilliant team in a whole. I quote Toninho Cerezo, Orlando, Chicão, Valença, Luisinho, João Leite, Éder Aleixo, Paulo Isidoro, Marcelo Oliveira, and Reinaldo (considered by many the best player of the history of the team, being also the striker with 255 goals). They made the team get into the finals of 77, losing in the penalties against the own São Paulo, and on 80, against Flamengo. The first international competition the club did was Copa Libertadores on 1972 (being eliminated on the first phase), and on 78, the team was on semi-finals, in a group with Boca Juniors (hateful...), and River Plate (my second team? Maybe?). And in 81, there happened an extra game, where I just don’t need comments for talk about the complete steal of this championship, benefiting the winner Flamengo (actually, WHEN it wasn’t like that?). The first international title just came on 1992, with the former Copa CONMEBOL, a precursor of the Copa Sudamericana. The second title of Copa CONMEBOL came on 1997, but Galo could have 3 trophies. On 1995, the final was against Rosario Central-ARG. On Mineirão, Atlético scored 4-0, meaning that the Argentinians needed to win by 4 goals of difference for take the dispute to the penalties. At the Gigante de Arroyito, in Rosario, the team did the same 4-0, and Rosario Central won in the penalties.

The club already had and still have another sports. On the 90s was shining on futsal. The Atlético Pax de Minas on the 90s had stars like Manoel Tobias and Falcão, and with them, the team could win the Intercontinental Cup on 1998.

Atlético’s team on 1970
Reinaldo, one of the stars of Galo, doing his famous celebration after his goals. The closed fist was controversial during the Military Dictatorship

Every cloud has a silver lining: relegation, and resurgence

Galo made out to get in 1999 final of Brasileirão, but lost to Corinthians. After playing in the Copa Libertadores and Copa Mercosul, both in 2000, with relative prominence, Atlético played a great role in the 2001 Brasileirão — when Velloso, Cicinho, Gilberto Silva, Valdo, Marques and Guilherme led the team to the semifinals. However, from then on, Atlético started to live with ups and downs. After doing regular championships in 2002 and 2003, the team made poor performances in 2004 and 2005, and in this last edition it was relegated for the first and only time in its history. The recovery was quick and the team returned to Serie A in the first attempt, winning the title of champion of Serie B the following year, thanks to names like Diego Alves, Éder Luís and Danilinho. From 2008 to 2010, in the obsession of conquering a title of great expression, Atlético direction invested exaggeratedly in heavy contractions. Players such as Réver, Ricardinho, Petković, Diego Souza and Diego Tardelli were signed during this period. Even with so many reinforcements and expensive signings, Atlético did very poorly in the main competitions they played between 2010 and 2011 such as the Brasileirão, Copa do Brasil and Copa Sudamericana; perhaps the only consolation was that the team reached the international stage of the Sudamericana in the 2010 edition for the first time, being eliminated in the quarter-finals. Ironically, the turning point in the club's recent history would come after a tragic event. The team was humiliated by their biggest rival Cruzeiro, in the last round of the 2011 Brasileirão, when they left the field defeated by 6-1 at Arena do Jacaré (in Sete Lagoas).

But the team came from behind to win. "Se houver uma camisa branca e preta pendurada no varal durante uma tempestade, o atleticano torce contra o vento. (If there be a shirt white and black hanged on the clothesline, the atleticano shout against the wind.)", as said by Roberto Drummond. The next seasons would be the heaven of the alvinegros (black-and-whites).

Libertadores 2013, Copa do Brasil 2014, and the recent seasons

The year of 2012 came and the club's board began to live with a lot of pressure from the fans. It was within this context that the club began to bring together a team that every Brazilian fan would know by heart: Victor; Marcos Rocha, Réver, Leonardo Silva and Júnior César; Pierre, Leandro Donizete and Ronaldinho Gaúcho; Danilinho, Jô and Bernard; coach Cuca. With this great team, Atlético became a natural favorite for the title of Brazilian champion. Unfortunately, even after leading several rounds and winning big victories, the team was left as runner-up. 2013 on Libertadores. That’s the biggest conquest of Galo. On the group stage, passed in first place (15 pts), against São Paulo-BRA (7 pts), Arsenal de Sarandí-ARG (7 pts), and The Strongest-BOL (6 pts). Getting to the play-offs, Galo won the own São Paulo-BRA with ease. The next was Tijuana-MEX, a game registrated owith right of a feet defense of the goalkeeper Victor), and Newell’s Old Boys-ARG. Final? Against Olimpia-PAR. The Paraguayans won in Asunción by 2-0. The Brazilians made the same in Belo Horizonte, and the game came to the penalties. With brilliant actuations all the game, Atlético raised the trophy winning the penalties by 4-3, with Jô being the top scorer of the competition. They went to represent South America on the FIFA Club World Cup 2013, in Morocco. Sadly, on the semi-finals, which was the first game, Atlético was eliminated by the host Raja Casablanca-MAR by 2-1, although won by Guangzhou Evergrande-CHN by 3-2.

We go then to 2014, with the back of Tardelli, and the announcement of Luan, and Dátolo. On Recopa Sudamericana (where winner of Libertadores of the last edition play against winner of Sudamericana of the last edition), Galo made good, and won Lanús-ARG, by 1-0 on Lanús, and 4-3 in Belo Horizonte (with overtime). Still in 2014, the club would finally pay a “debt” with its history in the Copa do Brasil. Played since 1989, Atlético is the record holder for participations, with 23 appearances; is the fourth team with the most games played, 140; is the fifth with the greatest number of victories, 72; is the third team that scored the most goals, 290; in addition to maintaining the biggest score of the competition, 11x0 against Caiçara (PI) in the 1991 edition. Even with so many favorable statistics, the club had never won the title of champion. However, history changed in the 2014 competition; in an exciting campaign, the team eliminated Palmeiras, Corinthians and Flamengo, and by a historical comeback (really? No news), and in the grand final they beat their classic rival (Cruzeiro is a joke lol) to win the cup. Aggregate of 3-0. A point, is the fact Cruzeiro is the recording of Copa do Brasil with 6 titles. 2015, the club almost got the Brasileirão, being runner-up against Corinthians (again!?), and on 2020, with a mega-disputed championship, was third place. The own 2020 started with the announcement of the Venezuelan Rafael Dudamel. Then, a “tragedy”: on the second phase of Copa do Brasil, they played against Afogados-PE. 2-2, and a lost by 7-6 on the penalties. Although this game, it changed Galo forever, and soon was announced the Argentinian Jorge Sampaoli to command Atlético. The start was really good, and on Brasileirão the team was some rounds on the leadership of Brasileirão 2020, although at the final, the team unbalanced and got 3rd place, with Flamengo 1st, and Internacional 2nd.

He. Just he. Ronaldinho Gaúcho. THE player 

Atlético in 2021: the Triplete Alvinegro

2021, we got into one of the best years of the history of Atlético, and one of the inspirations for make these two blogs. Sampaoli was sold to Olympique de Marseille (FRA), and needing a coach that could have Sampaoli’s style (without do that sucks in the final of the championship), they called again, he: Cuca (the one of 2013 Libertadores), which for me, along with Telê Santana (the one that commanded the team on the trophy of Brasileirão 1971) are the best coaches of our history. The team had players like Everson, Keno, Guilherme Arana, Zaracho, Diego Costa, and him: Hulk. The first games on Campeonato Mineiro were kinda disappointing. But after that... was just happiness to the fans. In the whole 2021, the team had only 9 defeats, in all the competitions it disputed. Against América-MG (where are you Cruzeiro!?!?), the team raised the 46th (bruh 😴) title of the Campeonato Mineiro. The Brasileirão started with a defeat against Fortaleza by 2-1 on Mineirão, and that was basically the only defeat on our stadium we had this year (A MASSA FAZ TREMER, although we still weren’t able to go to the stadium until mid-August). We got in the leadership of Brasileirão against Juventude, on the 15th round, and since that we were kilometers of distance of the other teams.

Passing a little bit to another competition, the Libertadores, Galo fell on a group with Cerro Porteño-PAR, América de Cali-COL, and Deportivo La Guaira-VEN. We made the best champaign of the group stage with 16 points, 5 wins, and 1 draw. No loses. The Round of 16 was against who? Boca Juniors-ARG. We passed on the penalties with canceled goals of the Argentinians on both matches at La Bombonera and at Mineirão (well-canceled, but motive for the players of Boca almost destroy Mineirão...). And the quarter-finals? River Plate-ARG (my second team 🙃). Winning on Monumental de Núñez by 1-0, with the reopening of the gates to the public on Mineirão, we were able to smash a 3-0, with right of a volley goal of Zaracho (a literal painting waiting for receive a frame). But with a penalty lost on Allianz Parque, and two draws, we said goodbye to the competition on the semi-finals against Palmeiras due to the away goals rule.

And Copa do Brasil. The black-and-white started on the third round against Remo (PA). 4-1 on aggregate. At round of 16, we went against Bahia (BA). 3-2 on aggregate on the suffocation. And the quarter-finals? We were playing against Fluminense (RJ). 3-1 on aggregate. Semi-finals against Fortaleza (CE), of Ceará. Aggregate? 6-1, with 4-0 on Mineirão. But back to Brasileirão, we need to say about Bahia. Again? Again. On the Arena Fonte Nova (Salvador), the game valid for the 32nd round, that got postponed, was full of emotions. The first half? Nothing of goal. Now the second half... Bahia made 2-0 on 4 minutes, and with 5 minutes, we finished a history of 50 years, making 3 goals, and getting the second Brasileirão of our history. At the end of the competition we scored 84 points. And the finals of Copa do Brasil against Athletico-PR (did you just saw the “PR” on the name!?). We basically repeated the score of the game against Fortaleza, being a 4-0 at Mineirão, and a 2-1 at Arena da Baixada. What do this mean? Champions! Campeonato Mineiro, Campeonato Brasileiro, and Copa do Brasil on the same year. This mean Tríplice Coroa (Triple Crown)? No. We recalled it of Triplete Alvinegro (Black-and-white Triplet) due to the rivalry against Cruzeiro, that won the same competitions on 2003 😝 Being the winner of Copa do Brasil and Campeonato Brasileiro, Atlético needed to fight against Flamengo, vice-champion of Campeonato Brasileiro, in very controversial situations extra-field, such as place, lack of structure, and faces-off. The game happened in Arena Pantanal, on the city of Cuiabá. After a 2-2 on normal time, Galo raised trophy by winning after lots of penalties lost by both sides, and a score of 8-7 (who complained about our penalties? Alright, take that. Flamengo is vice, of a competition he was classified by being vice. How is it going, cheirinho?)

Why there isn’t still images of this person wearing Atlético’s jersey!? HULK HULK HULK HULK!

Woah... DEU GALO NA CABEÇA! You that are reading may not be into sports, neither the NBA or the NFL... idk. But it’s almost speechless what we did this season. And all the history actually. We are not “another club”. I mean, the crowd I can assure we are the biggest crowd of the world, and screw the numbers lol. The 6 biggest numbers of Brasileirão 2021, beating three times the record of public in Mineirão since the reform for 2014 World Cup. We doesn’t abandon the team or call it “time sem vergonha (worthless team)”, (learn with the masters Flamengo). And what I can say about the players. From the years of the Trio Maldito, to the squad of Dadá Maravilha, Oldair and Lola. From the years of Reinaldo, Toninho Cerezo and Éder Aleixo, to the heroes of the promotion to Serie A. From the Ronaldinho Gaúcho, Victor and Bernard of Libertadores, to the Hulk, Zaracho, and Guilherme Arana of the Triplete Alvinegro. I basically thank to all the players and coaches that passed there and helped on our history. What will come to the future? I wanna the second Libertadores, and hopefully a better champaign on the Club World Cup lol. GALOOOOO!

+1
Level 43
Jan 16, 2022
I would add the players section, but the blog was already too big, and I wouldn't like doing a sequel with that. On this sequel I would review each game of Galo on Brasileirão, but with the Triplet, is sensical that I would add Copa do Brasil, and even Campeonato Mineiro, what would force me to add the Libertadores part, although we weren't champions (in 2021).

New? The market is on fire. Cuca left the team in December 28th saying about family problems, although is common seeing him leaving the clubs after great seasons. Players that left the team include Hyoran (didn't play a lot lol), Nathan (goodbye "pescador (fisherman)"), Junior Alonso (whyyyyy!?), and Diego Costa (...). The insane search of Atlético for a coach was terrible, with many no's. They even sent a official note to the fans for be calm and that they would have calm on the search! Happily, "El Turco", Antonio Mohamed (Argentina) is on the charge. We also received players as Fábio, Otávio, and him: Diego Godín!

+1
Level 43
Jan 16, 2022
The searches are insane, as Galo needs of present the broad before the Supercopa against Flamengo (Flamengo comming to the decision without winning nothing, as we won Copa do Brasil and Brasileirão, is such a stupidity, being impartial).

Sincerely, I think the 2022 of Atlético will be as good as like 2021... hopefully the second "Liberta". The mecenas helped a lot on bulding this Galo, and I thank a lot to them. Well, I thank to Atlético.

+1
Level 43
Jan 16, 2022
What you find on an Atlético's fan playlist?

Stuff like this, a bit of this, a bit of that, and that as well. And logically this!

+1
Level 73
Jan 17, 2022
It took you ages to write this, didn't it? 😁

Anyway, nice little profile. E O GALO? (learnt that from you lol)

+1
Level 43
Jan 17, 2022
Yeah lol. I needed to post this in the end of December, but... procrastination lol

O GALO GANHÔ! (Rule: where you find anyone saying “E o Galo?”, you compulsorily need to say “O Galo Ganhou/Ganhô!”)

+1
Level 73
Jan 17, 2022
Okay, O Galo Ganhô!

:)

+1
Level 43
Jan 17, 2022
O GALO GANHÔ!!
+1
Level 63
Jan 17, 2022
Amazing MG! I wouldn't say this is just a profile though lol. Instead, I would call it an extremely in-depth summary haha.
+1
Level 43
Jan 17, 2022
Nah... I didn’t talk a decimeter of the 40s although I didn’t find relevant stuff. But thank you :)
+1
Level 57
Jan 25, 2022
How are you blogging? I just realized you are level 34.
+1
Level 43
Jan 25, 2022
At total level, above level 40.
+1
Level 57
Jan 25, 2022
Oh. Thanks for answering.
+1
Level 65
Jan 30, 2022
I finally read this lol, it's amazing! Though I had to read some parts quickly since I anyway couldn't understand like you can't understand telugu but I'm sure it was great anyway!
+1
Level 43
Jan 30, 2022
Telugu is impracticable

Thanks :)

+1
Level 68
Mar 12, 2022
Parabéns Galo! Depois de tantos problemas e a zoeiras de que o time nunca era bi, finalmente deram a volta por cima com varios titulos. E ver o grande rival amargar a 2ª divisão pelo terceiro ano seguido deve ser ainda melhor. 😄
+2
Level 43
Mar 12, 2022
Nem fazia ideia que você era ativo no RUB ou até mesmo nos quizzes ;-;. O Brasil precisa crescer emergencialmente.

É uma sensação incrível, 3 títulos em 80 e poucos dias é algo maravilhoso. Só falta uma Libertadores, e uma campanha digna no Mundial. E também, estamos mais rivais para América, Villa Nova-MG, ou Tombense (nem direi sobre o Flamengo, já que é óbvio) do que o Cruzeiro, apesar do que poderíamos ter um adversário mais digno de pelo menos passar do décimo lugar na Série B kkkk.

Obrigado pelos elogios! Espero que o São Paulo faça melhor nesse ano. Não é time pra brigar contra o rebaixamento! Digo isso porque você tem um quiz sobre o São Paulo, ou seja, posso estar conversando fiado e deduzindo erroneamente seu time.

+1
Level 68
Mar 12, 2022
É então, eu passo aqui e ali, fico um tempo sem aparecer aqui no JetPunk, mas cedo ou tarde eu volto. 😄

Heheheh, não, não sou saopaulino não. Iria fazer quizes sobre os times mais populares do Brasil e comecei por eles, mas na verdsde torço pra Portuguesa. 😄😔

Ah sim, o Cruzeiro tá muito mal. Mesmo com Ronaldo e SAF (que é uma grande duma cilada), acho que ainda vão ficar mais um ano ao menos na B.

E vamos ver como o Galo se sai na Libertadores esse ano. Entra como um dos favoritos. Pode levar o bi esse ano sim, a chance é real.

+2
Level 43
Mar 12, 2022
Ah, pois então esteja aqui diariamente! Quanto mais nossa comunidade cresce, mais representatividade nós temos.

E que legal! O hino da Lusa é sem dúvidas um dos melhores. Infelizmente, foi garfada por Fluminense e Flamengo, e está à beira da falência. Espero vê-lá no mínimo da Série C, e olhe lá. Além desse caso de tapetão, tenho quase certeza que a Portuguesa também tem problemas com dívidas e salários atrasados, certo? Times paulistas, como a própria Lusa, o Santo André, São Caetano, Paulista de Jundiaí, Grêmio Barueri/Prudente, etc, precisam voltar ao patamar do qual já estiveram um dia.

Se o Cruzeiro não saiu uma rodada acima do 10° na B, mesmo com o Fábio, eu duvido que o Ronaldo taque um pozinho de pirlimpimpim na SAF, e suba pra A. Mais fácil a Chape ou o Náutico subirem do que o Cruzeiro. Pra mim, sobem Grêmio, Vasco, e pelo menos um nordestino.

Pra mim, River Plate, Flamengo, Palmeiras e o Galo tem mais possibilidades de faturar o caneco. Boca tem chance pra semi, mas...

+1
Level 68
Mar 12, 2022
Sim, tem razão. Ultimamente to vindo aqui todo dia, pra voltar ao level 66 que perdi pelos resets dos quizzes. (continua)
+1
Level 68
Mar 12, 2022
Pois, 2013 foi uma coisa terrível. Tenho mais raiva do Flamengo do que do Fluminense na verdade (mas claro que detesto os dois). Depois daquilo a gente saiu caindo pelas tabelas e em 2018 chegamos à beira da falência e já se discutia encerrar o departamento de futebol do clube. Mas em 2019 foi eleito o atual oresidente Castanheira que ta colocando a casa em ordem. Já não temos mais salarios atrasados desde que ele assumiu, ele conseguiu tirar a penhora das rendas, fez um acordo trabalhista pra suspender o bloqueio sobre as nossas contas e outras coisas. Problema que nossa divida é imensa e a base está sucateada. E ele ficou insistindo num técnico retranqueiro safado (Fernando Marchiori) e estávamos mal no futebol. Mas esse ano estamos indo bem na A2 do Paulista e temos que ganhar a Copa Paulista pra arranjar uma vaga para a D em 2023. Pouco a pouco vamos tentando nos reerguer. A paulada foi forte, mas ainda vai orecisar de mais do que isso para nos derrotar. :) (continua)
+1
Level 68
Mar 12, 2022
Entendo que vc esteja contente e siga rindo e zoando os cruzeirenses (e está certíssimo, eu faria o mesmo hehehe), mas é uma pena que o Cruzeiro esteja tão mal. O Atlético é enorme do jeito que é também por ter um adversário tão glorioso e gigante como o rival. A ver o que acontece com eles, mas a coisa ta feia lá no Barro Preto. E é bom ter muito cuidado com o que ta acontecendo no Galo tbm, pq a dívida segue crescendo, isso é preocupante...

Sim, esses 4 que vc citou são os faveotios mesmo. Uma pena que a Libertadores agora seia desenhada para Brasil e Argentina. Gosto muito do futebol sudaca e é uma pena que seja muito difícil agora ver um Atlético Nacional, um Olimpia, um Colo Colo chegando numa final e mesmo numa semifinal. :/ (agora acabou)

+2
Level 43
Mar 12, 2022
O ponto bom de 2013 foi a conquista histórica da Libertadores por nossa parte. Quanto ao rebaixamento da Lusa...

Acho que é culpa mútua, tanto da Portuguesa por escalar o Héverton irregularmente, sabendo que poderia dar problema, e a CBF, beneficiando o Flamengo e o Fluminense (Flamengo perderia mais pontos, e seria rebaixado, e Fluminense chiou pois estaria na degola). Não é toda vez que a CBF vira a mesa nesses casos. E, quem não detesta o Flamengo, né? Kkkk. Espero que a gestão Castanheira engrene nesse caso, pois um time como a Portuguesa, merecia pelo menos uma participação respeitável na Sul-Americana. Lembro que o Canindé chegou a ser leiloado.

Eu concordo, no começo cheguei a zoar bastante, mas depois, começou a ficar chato, e até incômodo. Quantas vezes o clube chegou a ficar perto de ser rebaixado para a Série C? Incontáveis. Um time como o Cruzeiro merece mais do que isso, apesar de meu completo ódio.

+1
Level 43
Mar 12, 2022
Sobre a dívida, sim, 1 bilhão não é fácil, e essas conquistas do foram possíveis pelo dinheiro injetado pelos mecenas. Eles foram basicamente “o Castenheira versão alvinegra”, apesar de que o time não estava praticamente sem divisão, se é que me entende. O presidente Sérgio Coelho chegou a afirmar que se não fosse por eles, o Galo estaria na Segundona, em situação pior que Vasco e até o Cruzeiro.

Já que dinheiro não é capim, por isso há a tentativa de vender a SAF, especialmente para o Grupo City. Eu sei que a dívida é grande, mas eu não estou receptivo a ideia por:

+2
Level 43
Mar 12, 2022

Questões estéticas: Ser azul igual o maior rival é provocação, e nesse ponto, todos os torcedores querem sair de perto disso (sim, o Girona é vermelho, mas...). Além do mais, ser o “Belo Horizonte City Mineiro” (por incontáveis “Clubes Atléticos”, como o caso do Torque do Uruguai) é “patriota”, mas meio zoadaço. Mas isso é o de menos.

Ser o laboratório do Manchester: Os times que o Grupo City comprou, aumentaram (e irão aumentar) de rendimento gradualmente, mas os melhores jogadores podem ir pra base do grupo, que é o Manchester City. Jogadores de base geralmente são emprestados ou até vendidos pro Manchester (apesar de que a base atleticana me dá pesadelos). Se vender o Alonso pro Krasnodar foi um desespero, vender o Hulk pra outros times City, será um inferno.

Desconfiança: Ganhar confiança de alguém é um processo demorado. Quando é com você mesmo, se desvincular pode ser fácil, mas quando é o seu time, um grupo de pessoas (continua)

+2
Level 43
Mar 12, 2022

que pensam de forma diferente, com muita burocracia envolvida, é um processo bem complicado. Eu ainda não entendo por completo a ideia da SAF apesar de que um menino de 12 anos não devia ficar cuidando de economia e finanças, e meter meu time do coração nisso é algo bem difícil. Não tenho nenhum plano de ser literalmente uma potência sul-americana, quase mundial em um ano, e no ano seguinte, ficar à beira de um rebaixamento por causa disso. É improvável? É, e muito, mas eu não tenho confiança no Grupo City.

A Libertadores vem realmente criando um eixo. É difícil ter um campeão Once Caldas, Colo-Colo, Argentinos Juniors, ou Vélez Sarsfield. Eu não coloco o Atlético não lista por clubismo, mas pelo desempenho do time em 2021, e mudar (em sentido ruim) de um ano pro outro é improvável nesse estado.

Sobre a Portuguesa: já houveram rumores de vender a Lusa pra Red Bull, quando o RB Brasil não engrenava. Seria uma boa opção... talvez. (Continua)

+2
Level 43
Mar 12, 2022
Como eu disse, vender times de futebol para grupos estrangeiros não é um “negócio da China” pra mim. É fácil quebrar essa parceria, e a Portuguesa sofrer esse baque novamente é terrível. Quitar as dívidas e subir pro Paulistão A1 deve ser o objetivo. Aos poucos nossa Portuguesa se reconstrói!

Nunca entendi bem o regulamento da Copa Paulista. A Lusa foi campeã em 2021 (ou foi 20?), e até o Red Bull Brasil foi vice em 2015. Os 4 grandes (Red Bull Bragantino? Será?) não participam?

+1
Level 68
Mar 12, 2022
Sim, 2013 foi de sonho pra vcs e um pesadelo pra gente :/

Alguém dentor da Portuguesa vendeu o time, disso não tenho dúvida. Acho que nunca saberemos quem, mas que isso aconteceu, não tenho dúvida. O Castanheira não põe dinheiro na Lusa (ao menos não em grandes proporções) e tá tentando uma reestruturação, sem fazer SAF, só na base da renegociação das dívidas. Bem melhor assim. Eu realmente não gosto disso de SAF e espero que não aconteça na Lusa.

E vc tem razão, é um dever cívico detestar o Flamengo. :D

Vi esse papo de que o City Group tava querendo "apadrinhar" algum time, mas aue estavam correndo de time grande pq as coisas sao muito instáveis e a torcida iria "encher o saco" e atrapalhar. Talvez façoa tipo a Red Bull fez com o Bragantino e pegue um time um pouco menor e, de preferencia azul. Acho que seria uma boa se pegassem o Paraná por exemplo, que acabou de cair pra segundona do Paranaense. Muito triste ver o time se acabado assim. :/

+1
Level 68
Mar 12, 2022
A dívida do Galo cresceu demais nos últimos anos. Foi bom que ganharam titulos e tudo, mas isso é preocupante. E sim, a ver como as coisas se desenrolam. Se os mecenas vêm e ajudam o time a se sustentar sozinho, como o Palmeiras ou o Chelsea, aí beleza. Mas se for pra ficar dependente deles fica complicado.

E a Copa Paulista é simples: tem 4 grupos. Os dois melhores de cada grupo classificam pras quartas de final, depois semi e final. O campeao tem direito de optar por jogar ou Série D ou a Copa do Brasil. Mas precisamos subir pq aí fica mais facil jogar seguidamente a D (pq classificam pra D os 3 melhores do Paulistão que não estejam na A, B ou C. A situação segue dificil, mas tem que manter a esperança hehehe.

+1
Level 68
Mar 12, 2022
Ah, e para entender melhor a SAF, recomendo fortemente o canal do Na Bancada no YouTube (e tem versão podcast tbm). Lá discutem de forma bem ampla os prós e os contras desse modelo.

A grande mídia só sabe fazer endeusar essa coisa e promoten que os times vão virar o Bayern de Munique, City ou PSG. Mas não é bem assim não

+1
Level 43
Mar 12, 2022
2013 foi um ano de muitas emoções, boas e ruins. Não importa que time você torça, você sempre tem carinho pela Lusa (e ódio do Flamengo).

É, eu tenho receio da SAF no Galo, mesmo com a dívida lá em cima. O City tentou negociar com o Bahia, mas não engrenou. Espero que não engrene com o Atlético.

Paraná... Curitiba City ia arregaçar, mas... kkk. Sim o Paraná é um caso bem triste. Eu chego a pensar que está pior do que a Portuguesa. Falando do Paraná, e também de canais de futebol (aliás, se puder eu dou uma olhada nesse canal), eu costumo assistir o canal @VamosfalardeFutebol, que faz ótimas animações e é paranista de corpo e alma. O último vídeo foi postado exatamente no dia que o Paraná perdeu pro União Beltrão (e que teve a invasão da torcida pelo rebaixamento), e teve muita zoação nos comentários, relacionando com o Super Grêmio... Paysandu, Brasiliense, União São João (acho que eles licenciaram) também merecem voltar ao estrelato.

+1
Level 43
Mar 12, 2022
Com o dinheiro dos mecenas, e vendendo a outra metade do DiamondMall, o Galo pode limpar grande parte dessa dívida, só ter força de vontade. A Portuguesa é outra história, mas ela precisa de um investidor, não necessariamente vendendo a SAF

Outros canais que recomendo incluem @storable futebol (também de animações), @O Clubista, @PELEJA, @Gol de Canela, @Sports Stats (gráficos de campeões de competições, na verdade), @Última Divisão, @ELE NÃO DISSE ISSO, e alguns outros. Para aquela zoada básica, @De Sola é uma boa pedida. Recentemente eu vi um pedaço de um documentário sobre a Portuguesa (não consegui terminá-lo ainda) com torcedores. Esse é o documentário. Feliz com um lusitano resistindo a esses baques que o clube passou!

+1
Level 68
Mar 13, 2022
Foi mal não responder antes. Tinha ido dormir rsrs.

Pois é, isso de SAF é uma coisa perigosa. Especialmente os clubes estão vendendo 90% da SAF. Isso é muita coisa. Tinha que ser no máximo 49%, para dar um bom aporte de grana, mas manter oncontrole nas mãos da diretoria. Tipo o tal do modelo alemão que sempre falam. O Ronaldo pagou muito barato pelo Cruzeiro e o Textor tbm pegou uma pechincha no Botafogo. E pegaram partes grandes da SAF. O Vasco parece que conseguiu vender "só" 70%, o que não é o ideal, mas é menos pior que 90%.

Cheguei a ver que o City Group tava negociando com o Atlético mesmo, não lembrava que eles falaram com o Bahia. E sim, o Atlético tem um shopping, dá pra dar uma boa abatida na dívida. E tem o estádio que tá vindo aí. Vamos ver se vai rolar. A torcida vai ter que lotar todo jogo por uns bons anos pra começar a dar retorno.

Valeu pelas indicações dos canais. Vou dar uma olhada neles. 👍

+1
Level 43
Mar 13, 2022
De boa, eu que fui retardado mental em responder depois de 22:30 ;-;

Eu não venderia sequer 30% da SAF. Na verdade, eu nem sei direito o que é a tal da Sociedade Anônima do Futebol, se o clube vira SAF, se todo o clube tem uma SAF, e ela é vendida, e se isso é explicado no vídeo que você sugeriu, eu não tive tempo pra assistir. A SAF tá se tornando uma medida meio desesperada, ou até virou moda (se tá todo mundo fazendo, eu também vou).

O City Group tentou negociar com uma porrada de times, mas não funcionou. O Diamond na verdade, dá mais prejuízo do que lucro. Vender a outra metade vai desafogar um pouco. Já o ponto de torcida, sem clubismo, mas não há muito com o que se preocupar. A torcida do Atlético é simplesmente apaixonada pelo time. Muita gente realmente reclama dos preços dos ingressos, mesmo que muita gente compra. As 6 maiores médias de público em 2021 (Brasileirão) foram do Atlético, então, é um ponto mais leve

Descobri que a Lusa jogou ontem (como o Galo). Como foi?

+1
Level 68
Mar 13, 2022
Então, os times não são obrigados a virar SAF. O time que quiser virar, constitui uma empresa que é responsavel pelo futebol do clube e vende uma porcentagem dessa emroesa para alguma empresa/pessoa interessada. O básico é isso, mas tem várias nuances. Esse canal Na Bancada tem boas explicações bem amplas sobre o assunto (prepare-se pq os videos sao longos). E sim, SAF virou meio que moda, mesma coisa que ter um técnico estrangeiro. Já nem se sabe exatamente o porquê se faz isso, mas, como tá todo mundo fazendo, não vamos ser os únicos tontos que não vamos fazer.

Ah sim, não duvido que a torcida compareça, mas sempre vai ter aqueles jogos que não vai encher. O Corinthians por exemplo, os torcedores sempre diziam "constroi o estádio que nois paga!" e não foi bem assim hehehe. E o jeito que eles fazem com o sócio-torcedor, é bem complicado ver um jogo lá Neo Quimica Arena.

+1
Level 68
Mar 13, 2022
Pois é, empatamos ontem na penúltima rodada com o Audax. Ja classificamos pras quartas de final da A2. Agora é ver se passamos em primeiro. Empatamos aos 42 do segundo tempo e nem foi merecido, era pra ter perdido. E o Galo?
+2
Level 43
Mar 13, 2022
O Galo Ganhô! Ontem foi jogo contra o Democrata de Governador Valadares. É sempre bom apontar a diferença, pois tem o Democrata-GV, e o Democrata-SL, que é o de Sete Lagoas, e joga o Módulo II do Mineiro). Jogo no Estádio José Mammoud Abbas (Mamudão), e é um ponto a se destacar, já que o Democrata não perdia lá desde 2020.

O Democrata foi bem no estadual, no momento é o 7º colocado, se classificando para o Troféu Inconfidência, que vai do 5º até o 8º colocado (1º-4º = Semifinais, 5º-8º = Semifinais do Troféu Inconfidência, 11º-12º = Rebaixamento).

Foi um jogo meio morno nos primeiros minutos, mas o Atlético encaixou alguns ataques, e lances de perigo. O Democrata planejou mais um esquema defensivo, mas conseguiu alguns contra-ataques. O gol só saiu no fim de jogo (que novidade!) aos 41 minutos com Nacho Fernandez, e um gol logo depois, anulado por impedimento (bem anulado).

Algumas polêmicas como dois pênaltis pro Atlético não marcados (serião, eram pênaltis), mas bom jogo.

+2
Level 43
Mar 13, 2022
No Paulistão A2, quero muito que Lusa e São Caetano subam, mas pro São Caetano já não tem chance, pelo que parece. O A2 funciona com 2 rebaixados também? Se sim, ao que parece, Red Bull Brasil e Audax foram rebaixados.

Procurar técnico estrangeiro já é até passado. Agora só vale técnico português. O que me assusta é como diversos times meio fora dos holofotes querem, ou estão virando SAF. Na página do Instagram do Última Divisão, que é um dos canais que eu recomendei, mencionaram o Rio Branco de Americana, União São João, Juventus da Mooca, Gama (Gama na verdade azedou, e voltaram atrás)... que meu Galo passe longe, até encontrar um investidor de responsabilidade. A Portuguesa também deveria fazer o mesmo, com um pouco mais de pressa. Mesmo com os salários em dia, tem uma dívida enorme, e estava há pouco tempo à beira da falência. Hora de colocar o espírito de Barcelusa na cabeça.

Aliás, como você se lembra da noite de 8 de novembro de 2011, quando a Portuguesa celebrava a Série B?

+1
Level 68
Mar 13, 2022
O Atlético vai ser campeão mineiro com um pé nas costas. Não tem rival em MG no momento. Mesmo o América não tem como competir de momento com vocês. Parabéns!

Foi uma moite muito especial essa que vc mencinou. Belo jogo contra o Sport, 2x2. Foi muito legal cer um titulo pessoalmente. Depois daquele não ganhamos mais nada até a Copa Paulista em dezembro de 2020, mas tava sem público e eu moro bem longe da Portuguesa (e de SP) no momento. :/

+2
Level 43
Mar 13, 2022
Na verdade, o América não joga às semifinais, nem a Tombense que subiu pra B. O América perdeu pro Uberlândia (que era o lanterna) por 2-1, e matematicamente não pode jogar as semifinais. Os semifinalistas já estão definidos: Atlético, Cruzeiro, Athletic (São João del-Rei), e Caldense (Poços de Caldas). Só falta saber a ordem. A disputa mesmo tá pro rebaixamento. Tem Pouso Alegre (Pouso Alegre, duh), Uberlândia (é sério? ;-;), Patrocinense (Patrocínio, e tá mais de boa por aí ;-;), e URT (Patos de Minas, agora dá pra entender)

Deve ter sido uma loucura. Tenho um carinho enorme pela Lusa. Mas enfim, qual hino você acha melhor: o atual, ou o antigo? Particularmente, o atual é mais potente.

+1
Level 68
Mar 14, 2022
Entendo. Pois, acho difícil Atlético não sair campeão. É muita vantagem sobre os outros. Se fizessem um combinado dos três contra o Atlético, ainda assim não conseguiriam.

Gosto do hino do Roberto Leal. Esse é muito bom e é o que eu sei cantar bem. O outro eu não sei :D

+2
Level 43
Mar 14, 2022
O do Roberto Leal é aquele tipo “Vitória, é a certeza/Da tua força, e tradição/Em campo, ó Portuguesa/Pra nós é sempre o time campeão”? Esse é de emocionar...

O Athletic pra mim pode dar uma zebra em alguém. Time bem estruturado, e já contratou Loco Abreu (azedou e saiu, mas...) e agora tem o Ricardo Oliveira.

+1
Level 68
Mar 14, 2022
Sim, é esse mesmo. Esse é marsvilhoso! 😌

Pois é, ouvi falar muito desse Athletic. Pode acabar surpreendendo mesmo.

+2
Level 43
Mar 14, 2022
Conseguiram vaga na Série D. Em quatro anos nesse nível, C na certa.

Esse hino é maravilhoso mesmo. Na verdade, estou trabalhando na série “RRR”, na qual eu dou notas para os hinos brasileiros. Já fiz da Série A, e eu estou trabalhando na Série B (de 2021). Pra adicionar outros times tradicionais, como a própria Portuguesa, acho que vou fazer um que tenha os Top 8 melhores de cada estado, só que seria mais complicado, e eu não poderia adicionar a letra nem a tradução.

+1
Level 68
Mar 15, 2022
É então, mas tem que ficar jogando seguido a D para poder uma hora subir. Ficar classificando pra ela uma ano sim, dois não, um sim, um não, fica difícil.

Sim, eu vi os dois posts sobre os hinos e achei curioso um estrangeiro avaliando os hinos, dizendo o que ele achava de todos. Ri com as avaliações que fizeram :D

Aliás, o que é RUB?

+1
Level 43
Mar 15, 2022
Na verdade, eu não entendo completamente o regulamento da Série D. A Lusa foi líder do seu grupo, e caiu pro Caxias no mata-mata, e vai ficar sem divisão nacional esse ano. Acho que ela devia continuar. Pelo menos os 3 primeiros de cada grupo, ou os que classificam pro mata-mata.

Você achava que eu era estrangeiro? Ou você tá falando dos comentários do TheNatureThread? Ele é um cara bacana. Indiano, mas mora na Califórnia. A gente tem uma aliança fictícia. Eu, ele, e mais outros 3 JetPunkers apesar de que a gente chama isso de Quadruple Alliance (Quádrupla Aliança) ;-;.

O RUB é o apelido dado à seção “Recent User Blogs”. Você encontra ela clicando no “Mais”. Em português, não tem quase nada, mas a alma do RUB é na parte anglófona. Você devia tentar os blogs :)

+1
Level 68
Mar 15, 2022
Então, a D não tem participantes fixos. Todos os anos tem que classificar pra ela. Só os quatro que caíram da C que já começam classificados. Todos os outros 64 tem que classificar via estadual/copa estadual. Acho bastante injusto esse regulamento, mas infelizmente ele é assim desde a sua criação em 2009.

Não, pela avaliações do TNT mesmo. Acho que já vi a respeito dessa aliança nos comentários dos blogs dele, do Aficionado e outros hehehehe.

Ah sim, obrigado pela explicação. Eu tava dando uma lida em alguns blogs. Tem muita coisa bacana sendo contada. Talvez eu escreva algo algum dia. Talvez sobre Portugal, já que não vi nada escrito sobre nem em inglês, nem em português.

+1
Level 43
Mar 15, 2022
A parte injusta é líderes de grupos não ficarem na Série D pra próxima temporada, como a Portuguesa. Essa parte que quebra.

Espera, o que o TNT Sports tem haver com isso? ;-; E, o Aficionado também é da aliança. E também é indiano (ele mora na Índia mesmo). Na tal aliança também tem o BigGeographyGuy (Inglaterra) e o ZooTuber3000 (EUA). É uma aliança incrível! Não sei se dá pra aceitar novos membros, desde que sejam considerados vassalos de alguma forma. Talvez. Não custa perguntar.

Portugal... oxi, mostra que tu é Brasuca de corpo e alma! Não é porque você torce pra Portuguesa que significa que você tem que falar sobre Portugal! Toda vez que tenho a chance, tento recrutar novos usuários BR pro RUB e pra própria JetPunk. É meio chato ser quase o único JetPunker ativo no RUB, sendo do 6º país mais populoso do mundo kkkk.

+1
Level 43
Mar 16, 2022
EDIT: Ah, você é de Portugal. Tá explicado :)
+1
Level 68
Mar 16, 2022
Sim, tbm não acho justo trocarem todos ps integrantes da D. Pessimo isso.

Ah sim, legal, bom que vcs fazem uma aliança. Muito bom! :)

Não, não é TBT Sports, é o TheNatureThread. Apenas abreviei. :D

Ah sim, moro aqui, mas sou brasileiro. Eu morar aqui é só uma coincidência hehehe

+1
Level 43
Mar 16, 2022
Talvez seja necessária também a criação de uma Série E. Não faço ideia se vem no pacote com a criação da tal liga da LaLiga (que eu também não entendo 100% ;-;).

Ah tá, (eu também chamo ele de TNT. Td mundo tem uma sigla assim, eu: MG, Aficionado: AFC, TheNatureThread: TNT, BigGeographyGuy: BGG, ZooTuber3000: ZT3K).

Então no título da Lusa da Série B, você tava em Portugal?

E acho que você deve investir em blogs. Sobre Brasil e Portugal, podemos fazer uma collab. Talvez a gente chama o Gustavo11 também, pro projeto de (por exemplo), topônimos de cidades. Eu por exemplo, nunca entendi porque se chama “Trás-Os-Montes” kkkk

+1
Level 68
Mar 18, 2022
Sim, acho que deveria ter uma Série E e sair descendo até os niveis regionais, estaduais, municipais e até de bairro. Brasil tem muito time. Dava pra fazer muitas divisoes com muito calendário pra todos. Mas acho que muita gente que manda mesmo não tá nem aí pra isso.

Ah sim, mais fácil chamar o pessoal por abreviaturas mesmo. Especialmente quando nao se repetem.

Não sei, quem sabe eu escreva algum blog. Dá preguiça muitas vezes. Mas um dia que eu estiver mais disposto, certamente crio algo.

+1
Level 43
Mar 18, 2022
Pra mim, até chegar a Série C Carioca foi exagero. Mas tem bastante mesmo. Os 16 (exemplo) times de pior campanha poderiam ficar sem divisão nacional, agora, me mete a Lusa líder do grupo ficar sem divisão porquês perdeu pro Caxias, aí me arrebenta. Acontece que organizar mais torneios assim, vai perder o interesse. Com o estadual já tá assim, então, baixar pra esse nível vai complicar ainda mais. Se oficializar, vai ter pouquíssimo investimento.

uau, vc me conhece tão bem ;-; É, dá preguiça mesmo, comigo é assim. Mas eu acho que é uma boa ideia pra você :)

+1
Level 65
Mar 18, 2022
Uh... wow

longest jetpunk conversation ever

+1
Level 43
Mar 18, 2022
thread randomly entering on brazilian conversation. join us or accept that cyprus is in asia
+1
Level 65
Mar 18, 2022
ok, i'll join you then
+1
Level 43
Mar 18, 2022
so... topics about soccer?
+1
Level 43
Mar 18, 2022
*porque
+1
Level 43
Jul 22, 2022
Glad to say Turco Mohamed is not our coach anymore. Eu fico é muito triste com uma notícia dessas! 🎇🎆🎇🎆
+1
Level 76
Oct 21, 2022
I wasn't sure what you meant by keeping the convo in your profile, but I guess this'll do? At least the notifications go to the right person.

So Flamengo is kind of the ManU of Brazil? I wonder if someone could or should make the "everybody hates" quiz for football. But then, it could be just a list of "too successful" teams for the most part. Or, if they successfully start the "European Super League", it's all of those teams. The organization hired a new CEO with Real Madrid ties to push it towards reality for 2024/25 season. UEFA strongly opposes it as they wish to keep their lucrative monopoly on border crossing football. Then again, a lot of so called true football fans see such a series as a death of football. It would work, roughly, on same principles like the american series (NHL, NBA, etc). All about making more money.

Current members are Real M., Barcelona, Juventus.

+1
Level 43
Oct 21, 2022
Convo means conversation lol

I mean... maybe? I thought everybody used to hate Man City instead (in England) lol. The difference, is that Flamengo got a big jump in 2019, with the titles of Libertadores and Campeonato Brasileiro. Some years before it, Flamengo got some vexations, some of them being:

The elimination on Libertadores’ Group Stage by León (MEX) in 2014

The “almost” relegation of the team in 2013 (will say more details soon)

The vice-championship of Copa do Brasil 2004 (year of the zebras) against Santo André

The elimination on Copa do Brasil 2014 semifinals against Atlético Mineiro (2-0 to Flamengo at Maracanã, 4-1 to Atlético at Mineirão)

Elimination at Libertadores against América (MEX) in 2008 (4-2 to Flamengo at Azteca, 3-0 to América at Maracanã)

These are actually some few examples. I mean, Flamengo won Copa do Brasil on Wednesday against Corinthians, and must win Libertadores against Athletico Paranaense. Man U is opposite looking on this case imo lol

+1
Level 43
Oct 21, 2022
And once against this story of Super League? Oh God...
+1
Level 76
Oct 26, 2022
Yeah, they are trying real hard to "revitalize" the ESL. Let us see them try. I mean, they go for prestige riding on the old teams with ready fan bases and legacy, which is shameful. ... However, I would not be totally against them starting ESL with teams that were started from scratch. I'm sure there would be players to join, if they pour enough money into it. You know, on the level of an experiment.

ManU is more, and more internationally, hated than ManCity. It's more of a commercial team than a sports team and they have a long list of players that are easy to hate. Also, long standing schism with such as Liverpool and Arsenal (big fan bases) and not tumbling like City who went as far down as third tier in English football. Of course City is an "oil team" now, and winning. These things come with a cost.

PS: Yes, I know what convo means. I just wasn't sure what you meant by "keeping in my profile".

+1
Level 76
Oct 26, 2022
Additionally, it was pleasant to see Barcelona fall today (Champions League). Saw their televised game live, too, although Inter sealed their fate earlier. Bayern was wearing near identical to Real Madrid jerseys. Wonder if it was intentional? Little psychological games.

Do you go to live games much? Heard it's on another level over there.

+1
Level 43
Oct 26, 2022
Actually, I’ve never gone to a live game. Atlético’s tickets cost an arm and a leg. But the explosion in the crowd is outstanding unfortunately the team is f... up this year. Well, for me Napoli is gonna pass to the semifinals, and Club Brugge will reach the quarterfinals i know i have some idiot ideas. I started sympathizing a lot with them. And also, I find pretty ironic the fact that Man U features a devil on the crest, but the anthem looks like “Glory, Glory, Hallelujah”. I don’t have a team to actually hate in England, but Man City is pretty sus.

Well, I guess we can now talk about South-American football? Lol. The finals of Libertadores are on Saturday between Flamengo VS Athletico Paranaense. I have to say that Flamengo is gonna win by more than 3 goals. The truth hurts... but if Real Madrid doesn’t score 2 in the Club World Cup, it isn’t a digne win.

If you like watching about football finals, I would recommend you the video I’ll leave on next moment :)

+1
Level 43
Oct 26, 2022
Here you can watch the highlights of the Libertadores 2013 Finals, between Atlético Mineiro VS Olimpia (PRY). While Atlético was trying to conquest the first trophy, Olimpia was trying to raise it the fourth time. The first game good times the final wasn’t a single game happened at Defensores del Chaco, in Asunción, with Olimpia winning by 2-0. At Mineirão, Atlético made the comeback by 2-0, and won in the penalties by 4-3. Shoutout to Ferreyra’s (Olimpia) slip on the field while Victor, the goalkeeper of Atlético São Victor eterno... was out of the goal.

2013 can be the most impressive Libertadores’ ever because of the journey of Atlético. Although of an easy game against São Paulo (round of 16), they almost got suffocated by Tijuana-MEX (passed on the away goals rule after São Victor’s wonderful defense of a penalty) and Newell’s Old Boys-ARG (also on penalties, by 2-0, 2-0, 3-1 at penalties)

+1
Level 76
Nov 15, 2022
Sorry for late reply. Did a devastatingly heavy work project that took 100% of waking minutes. If I "disappear", that's usually the reason. Moving on...

Thanks for the link. I will check it out later tonight. Never seen a full S.Am., or even the highlights of a, game. The most they have shown around where I've lived has been some Pelé and Maradona document snippets. I'm plenty more familiar with European football (but I guess so is "everyone").

Ah yeah, City... One of my friends is a City fan and I agreed to go to a game, but guess what? The queen decided to drop dead and the game was cancelled. That was that. A few days later, however, I did go to see Reading-Sunderland (lower level game, so the tickets were more moderately priced). Never seen a worse game from a home team. I cannot remember, if they got more than 2 passes to their own and it was like retarded children against adults. The supporters started leaving early on. There was a lot of cursing and throwing items on the green

+1
Level 76
Nov 15, 2022
I never even thought about the anthems... but now I checked the other red devils that I know of (Belgium national team, Kaiserslautern) and they don't have any hallelujahs in the lyrics. ManU might needs some of that divine intervention right now, especially with Princess Ronaldo the Lesser going on warpath with them (Piers Morgan interview to begin with & I'm guessing more to come, out tomorrow and day after, as I recall).

I, too, hope Club Brugge will go far. It is possible, just unlikely, to go all the way (especially with the chance that the sand cup will injure key players from others). Would be refreshing, if happened.

I cannot talk much about S.Am football since I know, like, what's been mentioned and Peñarol (and, the rumor says you have a Red Bull over there, now). So, you talk and I listen in that respect.

So... what is the cost of "arm and a leg" over there? (aka the ticket price)

+1
Level 43
Nov 15, 2022
I quite like of Sunderland. It's good to see them back to a Championship.

Talking about football fights, that reminded me of this fight between Cruzeiro's fans in the game Cruzeiro 0-2 Palmeiras, that relegated the home team. It was lovely.

So, I'm not sure why are you talking about Peñarol, but they are one of the best South-American clubs. Peñarol is from Montevideo, and they have a great rivalry with Nacional, which is another giant, and that's the club that Suárez is in now. They used to frighten the rivals, but now they can only get classified to Libertadores to be eliminated and play Sudamericana.

+1
Level 43
Nov 15, 2022
About Red Bull, they bought Bragantino in early 2019. They won Série B that year, and are on Série A since 2020. They ran for an unprecedent classification to Libertadores in 2021 and played it on this season, but were the last on their group with Estudiantes (ARG), Vélez Sarsfield (ARG) and Nacional (URY). This edition of Brasileirão, they lost by 6-0 to Fortaleza at 37th round, which is a great deception for the "Massa Bruta". I used to sympathize with them because of their history in the 90s (runners-up of a Brasileirão and champions of a Campeonato Paulista against another team from the countryside). Now I'm not liking them that much because of Red Bull ._.

And they cost almost 30 reais (associated) up to almost 250 reais (not associated). Around 4-40 pounds

+1
Level 76
Nov 17, 2022
Just mentioning Peñarol because it's one of the very few S.Am teams I know. Cannot say why, but the team has come across quite a few times. Probably due to success. Maybe betting. I used to do that back in the day. Always winning, but just peanuts. Considering the time spent in finding info it was just not worth it.

So, Cruzeiro is the "enemy", huh? :D

Talking of enemies, Princess Ronaldo took a steaming pile of dump on nearly all of ManU. Pretty much only spared Solskjær. Where do you think he's going to go over the winter transfer window? Saudis? ManU U23? Even some Brazilian manager told they don't want him because he's too expensive for a bench warmer.

Red Bull is a concept team and their concept seems to be working. Rumors down the grapevine say that Chelsea will start to actively imitate it. The famous sus City already does parts of it having teams "of brand" in other countries (US, Australia..)

+1
Level 76
Nov 17, 2022
Ah, for Brazilian salary that's likely a large money to pay. I find the average monthly to be 5099 reais (Sep -22)... but as we all know, most people make less than the average in every country.

The Reading-Sunderland ticket was something like £30. The City match would have been double, but, as mentioned above, it was cancelled and turned to refunds. Met some other folks there, from far away countries... One guy was laughing and consoling people with "don't worry, this happens only once in a lifetime". We shall see.

+1
Level 43
Nov 18, 2022
I know that Championship is one of the best promotion competitions, but I’d never spend £30 in a game between Reading VS Sunderland, although I love Sunderland.

Could you tell me which South American clubs you know? I mean, the competitions of this year in South America were quite weird. 8 teams are debuts on 2023: Aucas (ECU), Patronato (ARG) (that’s gonna play Primera B Nacional), Boston River (URY), Deportivo Maldonado (URY), Metropolitanos (VEN), Ñublense (CHL), Curicó Unido (CHL) and Magallanes (CHL). A lot of big teams won’t participate, one of them is Peñarol.

And yes, Atlético Mineiro and Cruzeiro are rivals. (Unfortunately) Cruzeiro was promoted and won Série B after being bought by Ronaldo Fenômeno and staying on the competition since 2020.

+1
Level 43
Nov 18, 2022
CR7, he practically doesn’t have where to go. No clubs are accepting him, and for Brazilian clubs, it would be too hard for keeping a valuable salary.

Atlético is finally classified to Liberta. They are going to play the qualifications tho. At least we can inaugurate Arena MRV, at the most important competition of the continent. And Fortaleza is also going to Pre-Libertadores after staying at the last place at the first round of the competition. They made a brilliant second round, and were praised with their second Libertadores.

Let’s say both Libertadores and Sudamericana messed up with some clubs’ calendar. Fortaleza was one of them, and being eliminated on the round of 16 by Estudiantes (ARG) was actually a good thing. Two of the clubs that were relegated, played Sudamericana: Ceará, that reached the quarterfinals (won all group stage games) and Atlético Goianiense (that almost took São Paulo out of the finals). Avaí is the “Norwich City” in Brazil, and Juventude was also expected

+1
Level 43
Nov 18, 2022
Oh no, Magallanes has already played Libertadores. It’s back after 38 years.
+1
Level 76
Nov 22, 2022
Ha, I understand your sentiment. On a side note, the cheapest Reading tickets are something like £5-9, but it was my friends' turn to arrange our trip and he wanted the luxury seats. My part was to pay and "enjoy the ride". No complaints, though. We set a budget and trust the choices of whoever is arranging the details. Good trips each time.

Which teams do I know... Well, Vasco, Flamengo, Peñarol and, now that I think of it, Palmeiras and, if we count Mexico, Monterrey and León. So... not many. But I do recognize a few logos without knowing names. I would probably remember a couple of the top Argentinian and Chileno teams hearing the name. The debut teams you mention say nothing to me. If they have history, I'm completely unaware of it.

The recent years have been a bit weird in Europe as well (e.g. Ligue1 France having Bordeaux and St-Etienne go down). Don't know what's going on. But it's refreshing, nonetheless.

+1
Level 76
Nov 22, 2022
The schedules seem to be really hard on many teams this year. Largely because of the sand cup, of course. I don't know how much LatAm leagues and cups are affected by it, but it's killing in Europe. On the bright side, the smaller teams have a good chance to reach for that sweet success. As much as I have my own favorites, I am always happy for the "little one's" making it.

Princess Ronaldo is poison, far overrated and even farther overpriced. He pretty much demolished Juventus and was doing the same to ManU. Real was built around him and to serve him. Without that, he would be of mediocre success at best. The price tag+performance combo he has is affordable only to Saudis and maybe some bigger Chinese teams. They are marketing him well, though, but even the hype is dying.

Question: is Libertadores one of those cups with a two-part final? I have this faint memory that in LatAm, nearly everything is a two-part process. (even seasons with the Apertura/Clausura thing)

+1
Level 43
Nov 22, 2022
Impressive how you didn’t recognize the Top 5 from Argentina: Boca Juniors, River Plate, San Lorenzo, Racing, and Independiente (maybe I would add Estudiantes to that list). Talking about Argentina... no, we shall not talk about Argentina lololololololol. Chilean teams like Colo-Colo and Universidad Católica. From Paraguay, Olimpia, with three Libertadores conquests. From Uruguay you also could have mentioned Nacional. And from Merconorte, there are teams like LDU (Ecuador), Atlético Nacional (Colombia), etc. In Brazil, we also have Corinthians, São Paulo, Fluminense, Santos, Grêmio, Internacional, Cruzeiro, Atlético Mineiro... Surprised you didn’t mention América to Mexico.

The relegations of Saint Étienne and Bordeaux were pretty saddening, and Saint Étienne looks to be in a big crisis. On football terms, because Bordeaux almost got relegated to third division by debts.

+1
Level 43
Nov 22, 2022
The Brazilian calendar is considered for many the hardest in the world. Foreign coaches always point that, and ask for a one-week break between the games. But, from competitions you have the state championship (Campeonato Paulista, Campeonato Carioca, Campeonato Mineiro, Campeonato Gaúcho...), an international competition (if you got classified to it) bringing Libertadores or Sudamericana, the Brazilian Championship, being it Série A, B, C, or D (two rounds by week, usually), the Brazilian Cup, and now I cannot remember any competition else. That almost relegated Fortaleza (but they had a brilliant recuperation getting back to Libertadores), and relegated the rival Ceará (although Ceará was inconsistent this season, only being good in Sudamericana). But in Brazil these competitions don’t take place like in Europe (2022-23 for example), so clubs didn’t have problems with summoned, only at Qualifications and Friendly Matches
+1
Level 43
Nov 22, 2022
I’d say Ronaldo is having a bad time in ManU. He didn’t turn so explosive at Juve like in Real, but he got into a dead end in Manchester, considering that ManU is not the same ManU of 2009. The defense is kinda weak tbh, and the coaches doesn’t let him to play. How are you gonna curse a player if you doesn’t let him to have game time? So, he got accustomed with the fact that he had the talent and the skills in Real Madrid, but went to a team with bad pretensions, like being classified to Europa League. No player would feel good like that, and it sound reasonable his unhappiness for me.

Both Libertadores and Sudamericana have an one-off game in a neutral venue since 2019. Libertadores on 2022 was between Flamengo VS Athletico Paranaense at Estadio Monumental Isidro Romero Carbo, at Guayaquil, while Sudamericana was between Independiente del Valle VS São Paulo at Estadio Mario Kempes. The one-off game has been really criticized, and they also ask for Mexicans to get back to CONMEBOL.