Why an Elder Guardian is not a Boss Mob (Minecraft)

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Is an Elder Guardian a boss?

No healthbar

Unlike the Wither and Enderdragon, the elder guardian’s healthbar does not appear above the screen.  (And no, don’t be saying in comments “then what about illager raids?”

There are three

Unlike the Enderdragon, the other naturally spawning “boss”, there are three, all naturally spawning, elder guardians.

No portal

I know, this might change with the Warden, but unlike the end (Enderdragon) and nether (wither materials) heading out into the ocean doesn’t require much.  You need a potion sure, and some milk, but you can see the drop in quality from the Enderdragon to the elder guardian.

Weaker effects

With the wither, you get the wither effect.  Basically the same as poison, except it can kill you.  But the wither is also constantly renewing the effect with his attacks.  Enderdragon has dragon’s breath, and his revival from crystals.  Elder guardian, he just gives you mining fatigue, and it is not as constant as Wither effect.

Not as good a prize.

Enderdragon, you get Enderdragon egg, and loads of Xp.  Wither, you get nether stars.  Elder guardian, along with it’s monument, you only get some sponges, sea lanterns, and a little bit of gold, plus some prismerine for building.

It has a spawn egg

Unlike the other bosses, this dude has a spawn egg.  Wither, you summon it.  Enderdragon, you jump into a portal.

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Level 65
Jul 29, 2021
Like you slightly touched on, basically they’re way too easy to kill.
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Level 48
Jul 29, 2021
The boss bar is exactly the reason why the Elder Guardian isn't considered a boss on Java, but is considered a boss on Bedrock
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Level 60
Jul 29, 2021
I play BR, and i don’t see no healthbar.
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Level 75
Jul 29, 2021
Technically speaking, there's only one main boss - the ender dragon. The wither and the elder guardian are side bosses in my opinion.

You receive a special achievement when you kill an Ender Guardian. I think that's enough to qualify it as a boss - at least a sub-boss.

Also, to counter some of your points:

- The mining fatigue effect is given every minute to players within a 50 block range. The cooldown is pretty short and you might run into problems if you don't bring a lot of milk

- You can literally have as many withers as you want as long as you don't hit the mob cap, so I see nothing wrong with just 3 sub-bosses that players can't manually spawn without cheats on although most normal people wouldn't do that

Oh and, if you want to classify bosses by difficulties, I would argue ender dragons are easier to beat than both withers and elder guardians.

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Level 60
Jul 29, 2021
I am not sure if the achievement is on bedrock. From watching YouTube, I know that there are more on Java.
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Level 63
Jul 30, 2021
The achievement is on Bedrock. It's called "The Deep End".
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Level 60
Jul 30, 2021
K
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Level 56
Jul 30, 2021
I mean, Minecraft wiki itself says that Elder Guardian is no boss. Source. Plus, we all know Baby Zombies are the real boss in the game
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Level 60
Jul 30, 2021
#babyzombieclub