All Modern-Day Countries Ever Controlled by Chinese People
Chinese civilization is no doubt one of the oldest and most influential in the history of mankind. But how far have Chinese powers really stretched? Below is a map of modern-day countries that were fully or partially under their rule, can you name them all?
For this quiz, the definition of Chinese people will be Han Chinese and other minorities heavily under its influence. Nomadic empires that became sinicized (e.g. Jin) will be considered whereas those that didn't (e.g. Yuan) are excluded. Places with Chinese influence but were never controlled by Chinese people as well as states with little to no / incorrect information are also discarded
Tributaries (except for Portugal, the Netherlands, and the Timurid Empire) are included
While this probably is not perfect, this map should be a rough representation of how far Chinese powers have reached
I've found no concrete sources for alania being controlled by the chinese, other than it being in the wikipedia article "list of tributary states of China" but in the list in has a tag that says needs citation. So if you know any sources I would be very happy to learn about it
What about Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia and Singapore? According to history, in the late 1770s some Cantonese expats sailed to Borneo and founded a "Lan Fang Republic” which was more like the British East India Company. The "Republic" was later seized by the Dutch when they gained full control of today's Indonesia. As for Singapore and Western Malaysia, the Chinese immigrants posed a profound influence on the local culture--they now use simplified Chinese characters.
Didn't know that was a thing. Thanks! Will be adding Lan Fang Republic to this in a future update. I have stated about Singapore and Malaysia in the second caveat.
Actually yeah, earlier when I first made this quiz I didn't consider how ethnic Chinese people make up over three quarters of the population. I should probably count it in too
don't forget there's also christmas island, an australian territory that is predominantly chinese by descent, and mandarin & cantonese are their most spoken language.
williamteoh Christmas Island is not an independent state, though. I don't think I'd consider subdivisions with a majority-Chinese population to be considered "under control of Chinese people".
If tributaries are included as it says in the caveat, I feel as though the Philippines should be included through the tributaries of the Sultanate of Sulu and Cabaloan.to the Ming and Butuan (potentially) to the Song.
Another great quiz! Just out of curiosity, what sources do you draw on for these "All Countries Controlled by ______ People" quizzes? Like do you use Wikipedia, or some channel on Youtube, or another source? I'm asking because I'm considering making a similar kind of quiz and I feel like these quizzes are kinda research-heavy so I just want to know where to start looking.
For those, I'd scan through empires I already knew and attempt to dig for more through wikipedia
I also use YouTube videos from YouTubers such as Ollie Bye, EmperorTigerStar, Khey Pard and Danzig HD Mapper. They're all great YouTubers with a lot of content on historical maps
Great, thanks! Also, I see you updated the quiz quite a bit. What's with all the little territories/towns in Arabia, South India, and East Africa? Were they all tributaries at some point? I've never really been aware of any of those regions being under Chinese control so that's cool!
They were Ming tributaries. The Ming Dynasty once sent out emissaries circa 1400, and many states willingly became tributaries to facilitate trade and relations with the superpower
A total of 270 seconds for 39 answers, giving you a bit over 6.9 seconds per answer. If you've taken CotW, chances are that you can easily name all or at least most of the countries at a decent speed. You're not gonna take 7 seconds to type China or Japan. Also, this map is zoomed in and has naturally eliminated a lot of countries already.
And my point? This is easily doable for most people who look for it thoroughly and I think the amount of time given is pretty generous.
I managed to get this but only because of the alphabetical order of the answers. It's very inconsistent with the rest of the answers, even though, sure, it would make it a lot easier with the dot.
More importantly, though, when the heck did Chinese control Bahrain? I lived there for a few years, went to all the museums, read about the history of the country, and read books about the Chinese Treasure Fleets of the 15th century where I assume many of these dots might have come from, but I never came across anything about Chinese control of Bahrain - a tiny island deep in the Persian Gulf that the Greeks called Tylos, that at various points was controlled by Seluecia, Parthians, Sassanids, and Arabs.. but... the Chinese? Never came across that before.
I'm not saying that it's impossible I'm ignorant on this point, either. I'm just genuinely curious where you got this from because I never heard it before. And my quick Google search now came up with nothing.
All this was based off this Wiki article. At the time I didn't understand how different was the Chinese tributary system in the past and simply included everything I could find a map on. I'll probably have to remove quite a few of them in the next update
mf3: which one? There were several great authentic Thai restaurants around the city, including one in Juffair I used to visit all the time, but they kept annoyingly shutting down. One of my favorite places was Arirang & Edo in Hoora - wonderful Korean & sushi place. Lots of Asian immigrants in Manama so naturally lots of good restaurants.
Same. Rolled through all of the rest in no time flat and spent over a minute searching, couldn't find it, threw out a couple alphabetical guesses (Azerbaijan), went back to zooming in and finally found it in time.
When did China control so much of the subcontinent? Their largest extent would have been upto Nepal, Sikkim, Bhutan and maybe Arunachal Pradesh. But, Bengal, Bihar, the rest of the northeast, Burma?
Also, what are those small dots in south India? What about Sri Lanka and the Maldives?
Please remove them. As mentioned below, giving tributes doesn't necessarily mean that they are Chinese. Moreover, we Indians are too proud to have never been invaded by China except cheap items carrying the label 'Made in China' which have literally colonised the entire world. Whatever they took from us is illegal, all thanks to a pesky little neighbour of ours.
In this Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_treasure_voyages,
it states in the "seventh voyage" section:
"On 14 September 1433, as recorded in the Xuanzong Shilu, the following envoys came to court to present tribute: (...), King Sa'if-ud-Din of Hormuz sent the foreigner Malazu, (...)."
Albeit, I don't know whether this qualifies as a tributary for the purposes of this quiz.
Chin Pak was ethnic Chinese and was born in China. His son, Sir Julius Chan, was Prime Minister of Papua New Guinea. Does that make Papua New Guinea a country that was controlled by Chinese people (or person)?
ah great quiz! but don't think giving tribute counts as "controlling" the whole concept of tributary states and vassal states were a bit different for china...
I enjoyed this quiz thoroughly, but I think it's a stretch to say that being a tributary counts as being under Chinese control, even partially. Many empires throughout history have been each other's tributaries. Are we to say that Sweden was under the control of Algeria by this same reasoning?
Tributary states clearly don't count as countries controlled by Chinese people, as even the source material behind the quiz emphasizes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tributary_states_of_China):
"Under the Ming dynasty, countries that wanted to have any form of relationship with China, political, economic or otherwise, had to enter the tribute system. As a result, tribute was often paid for opportunistic reasons rather than as a serious gesture of allegiance to the Chinese emperor, and the mere fact that tribute was paid may not be understood in a way that China had political leverage over its tributary"
This should be renamed!! As such it's unworthy of its star.
I sort of rushed when updating this and I missed the part on how tributaries of Ming worked, I'll have to remove a good load of them when I make a new map
Has your project to update this been abandoned? It seems to me you could change the title to something like 'Countries which sent tribute missions to Imperial China' and be on firmer footing.
As it stands, its a mess. An interesting mess, but a mess.
I've stated a few times that I won't be adding a dot for Bahrain. But, since a lot of people seem to struggle with it, I might as well add a light water area around it in the future (if it doesn't get removed as an answer, of course) to make it more visible.
No need to change anything just because of Bahrain. If you get stuck, just look at the map and think of a country that can fit between Afghanistan and Bangladesh alphabetically.
They didn't. They sent trade/diplomatic missions to Africa in the 15th century (google the voyages of Zheng He), but they never controlled any of those territories.
Tributaries (except for Portugal, the Netherlands, and the Timurid Empire) are included
While this probably is not perfect, this map should be a rough representation of how far Chinese powers have reached
If tributaries are included as it says in the caveat, I feel as though the Philippines should be included through the tributaries of the Sultanate of Sulu and Cabaloan.to the Ming and Butuan (potentially) to the Song.
You might also want to consider the Ryukyu Kingdom (under both Ming and Qing) and the Malacca Sultanate (under Ming).
For the same exact reason emerged all those European colonial powers
For those, I'd scan through empires I already knew and attempt to dig for more through wikipedia
I also use YouTube videos from YouTubers such as Ollie Bye, EmperorTigerStar, Khey Pard and Danzig HD Mapper. They're all great YouTubers with a lot of content on historical maps
The quiz itself already eliminated most countries by limiting itself to mostly Asia, so I don't think I'll be adding one, sorry
And my point? This is easily doable for most people who look for it thoroughly and I think the amount of time given is pretty generous.
More importantly, though, when the heck did Chinese control Bahrain? I lived there for a few years, went to all the museums, read about the history of the country, and read books about the Chinese Treasure Fleets of the 15th century where I assume many of these dots might have come from, but I never came across anything about Chinese control of Bahrain - a tiny island deep in the Persian Gulf that the Greeks called Tylos, that at various points was controlled by Seluecia, Parthians, Sassanids, and Arabs.. but... the Chinese? Never came across that before.
Also, what are those small dots in south India? What about Sri Lanka and the Maldives?
except cheap items carrying the label 'Made in China' which have literally colonised the entire world. Whatever they took from us is illegal, all thanks to a pesky little neighbour of ours.Updating featured quizzes generally reset the stats, which could potentially be problematic if done too often.
it states in the "seventh voyage" section:
"On 14 September 1433, as recorded in the Xuanzong Shilu, the following envoys came to court to present tribute: (...), King Sa'if-ud-Din of Hormuz sent the foreigner Malazu, (...)."
Albeit, I don't know whether this qualifies as a tributary for the purposes of this quiz.
I missed the fact that Singapore is over 75% Chinese when mapping this
Anyway, this quiz exists if you want anything similar
"Under the Ming dynasty, countries that wanted to have any form of relationship with China, political, economic or otherwise, had to enter the tribute system. As a result, tribute was often paid for opportunistic reasons rather than as a serious gesture of allegiance to the Chinese emperor, and the mere fact that tribute was paid may not be understood in a way that China had political leverage over its tributary"
This should be renamed!! As such it's unworthy of its star.
As it stands, its a mess. An interesting mess, but a mess.
Hopefully will get back to updating this series at some point
Thanks!